Some dumb article came out today approved (of course!) by the likes of the Antz which talks about "big vaping" taking over just like big tobacco did. So of course the Antz jumped on that as another way of demeaning us (their favorite hobby).
Well guess what? They are right I am big vapor. But then so is ANYONE who has vaped, given someone a starter kit or even bothered to thoughtfully learn the real truth about vaping. WE the people are "Big Vapor" This is a consumer lead product denounced by most in Government or Public Health and totally thrashed (along with the users) by Tobacco Control. Funny all of these groups have told us over and over to quit smoking now! and when we do they are furious call us names and refuse to even acknowledge us except to denounce us more loudly and call us trolls and addicts et al over and over again while they block us and congratulate themselves for such a great job.
We quit smoking but we didn't do it the "right way" which means their way only. See they know their way mostly fails people come back to smoking fairly quickly ensuring a constant supply of sin tax money. Those groups are all addicted to that money.
I am Big Vapor Debora J. I am an anecdote to public health. I am a blocked nuisance a troll an addict to those who make their living from taxes--Tobacco Control. I am an annoyance to government because I am not being cowed by them. I do not count to any of these groups. My voice is not heard. I do not matter.
Yet perhaps to my family and my friends to the people who take a minute to hear me to read some of the links I post those who see the differences in me those I along with others try to reach on social media twitter and facebook gplus and pinterest etc....
Maybe I do
Tuesday, March 31, 2015
Friday, March 20, 2015
Tired of being 2nd class citizen
I read an excellent post by Lorien Jollye on the anger we feel as vapors/former smokers being called names such as tobacco trolls or being told we do not deserve to be heard among other things. It really hit hard. http://theindefatigablefrog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/the-indefatigable-frog-or-why-this-wont.html
Thanks to the elite public health factions and their helpful unthinking innocents we are now deeply in Orwells 1984 -- the privileged elite class who enjoy making all the rules without any checks or balances. They control the news and have purposely distorted facts about vaping making many claims that have NO backing in science or common sense. Now these public health groups will shoot down any type of law that they should approve of such as no sale to under 18 simply because it states a non-tobacco product. Yes it's true health groups have tried to allow sale to under 18 because the wording says the truth vaping does NOT have tobacco in it!! Shades of 2 + 2 =5!!!
Why? because according to them we are nothing more than addicts worthy of only contempt by anyone in public health. They tell us we are stupid we do not have a right to be around other people or to enjoy any activities that the right thinking people do so we are not to go to parks, beaches, zoos, we are too stupid to have a say in where our previous heavily taxed cigarette money should go (hint its to pay their salaries and give them a platform to further dismiss us) we are to still pay even more for healthcare with extra premiums (huh wasnt that where this tax money was supposed to go?) and even then at some hospitals will have the IV ripped from our arms while we are thrown into the streets http://www.salina.com/news/tobacco-policy-at-SRHC-91114 all of this because we are disgusting filthy non rightspeak thinkers who do not deserve a voice.
I am ashamed. I am 59 and I watched this happen in my lifetime yet never spoke up. I by my silence allowed a huge group of people--including myself! to become sub-human. When I was young people smoked everywhere--doctors offices, grocery stores. I can remember how angry my Mother was when her doctor advised her to smoke so she would lose weight. She hated smoking so maybe that is why I stood by I didn't let her know I was a smoker until I was 19. By then more people where starting to take health warnings more seriously even though we could still smoke in hospitals there were those who'd gripe about the cost or call them cancer sticks. I remember a friend's Mom who was talking about the new taxes and worried that someday cigarettes would cost a dollar a pack.
A few years later the bans started. It used to be at the mall we'd walk around with a cigarette yes we put them out before we went into the stores but walking around was fine. We were allowed to go into food areas and smoke also. We were still people then. Suddenly an ordinance was passed and all smokers had to congregate in a few select areas of the mall and OMG! Those were bad!! Even my non-smoking friends and relatives where appalled everyone agreed it was so much better when smoking was not confined to one place--back then you MIGHT catch an occasional smell but that was it but with the new way confining smokers to one place it was overwhelming...even to smokers. WE started going outside instead because that was gross!! Too many people confined to a very small space THAT is what caused the problem! It was ok in some places that had rooms set aside for smokers because it was ventilated too.
I was mostly too busy with life to pay much attention to all of this. My only concern was the price of my vice so I switched to generics. But then more bans my brother (never smoker) told me about new bans going in bars now that he thought were way stupid. The bingo halls started smoking and non rooms later on the state tried to ban smoking in the halls but attendance went down so much that the organizations managed to get the rooms with the special filters re-opened. Suddenly faster and faster bans were all over. I wasn't allowed to go to the parks the zoo damn near anywhere. I had to get away from doors even during a heavy rainstorm. I was looked at with contempt encouraged by tobacco control. A doctor actually yelled at my husband for being a smoker when he had health problems--the world had decided it had the right to tell us how to live now. People who used to be polite now felt it was their right to order smokers around tell us we are trash now potheads and alcoholics have respect but smokers are trash. Funny when I was young it was very different smoking a cigarette didn't make you mean or stupid or impaired it actually simply either gave you a moment to think or calm down or sharpened your mind so you think clearly but now its the bad guy. To be quite honest I would say alcohol has killed more people I lost a close friend at the age of 16 to a drunk driver. No matter what bs they lie about 2nd hand smoking only hurts the person. I have known too many people from smoking families who are kicking and old. Truth is tobacco control has an agenda to get rich so they lie.
Anyway my kids wanted me to become a non smoker and my friend's kids wanted the same for him too so we tried the vaping way. To our shock and surprise it works. Freaking weird!! But according to public health we are STILL trash. They seem to be mostly angry because they are loosing money and damnit! It is their money!! We are supposed to smoke pay taxes and take whatever they want to throw at us. We have no rights according to them we are not people. Shit they won't even allow our success stories on their quitting sites--http://smokefree.gov/journey ---- clear disclaimer from their site:
The information presented in these stories is based on the experience of individual smokers and does not represent NCI’s position or policy.
(*) Posts which advocate the use of non-FDA approved nicotine products may be removed.
And they HAVE removed loads of them!!
Public Heath? Or elite dictators? Privileged class who earn their living very comfortably getting rich through demeaning and punitive actions aimed directly at us. They lie. They said they simply wanted the end to smoking yet instead are determined to make us smoke again by denying us use of a product that even with their cherry-picked science they can't deny is much better for our health. To me it looks like panic and temper tantrums from them over money and power never health. To me all their garbage over vaping simply shows the truth they are all nothing but liars. Oh and I am not the only one who now believes this!! Everyone who watches your train wreck is disgusted. We no longer trust you that is why your warnings on vaccines on flu shots on damn near anything are now met with a raised eyebrow. Public health officials now need to prove themselves willing to work for real public health and not just money power and prestige
To those who don't believe me look around. Follow the money.
Thanks to the elite public health factions and their helpful unthinking innocents we are now deeply in Orwells 1984 -- the privileged elite class who enjoy making all the rules without any checks or balances. They control the news and have purposely distorted facts about vaping making many claims that have NO backing in science or common sense. Now these public health groups will shoot down any type of law that they should approve of such as no sale to under 18 simply because it states a non-tobacco product. Yes it's true health groups have tried to allow sale to under 18 because the wording says the truth vaping does NOT have tobacco in it!! Shades of 2 + 2 =5!!!
Why? because according to them we are nothing more than addicts worthy of only contempt by anyone in public health. They tell us we are stupid we do not have a right to be around other people or to enjoy any activities that the right thinking people do so we are not to go to parks, beaches, zoos, we are too stupid to have a say in where our previous heavily taxed cigarette money should go (hint its to pay their salaries and give them a platform to further dismiss us) we are to still pay even more for healthcare with extra premiums (huh wasnt that where this tax money was supposed to go?) and even then at some hospitals will have the IV ripped from our arms while we are thrown into the streets http://www.salina.com/news/tobacco-policy-at-SRHC-91114 all of this because we are disgusting filthy non rightspeak thinkers who do not deserve a voice.
I am ashamed. I am 59 and I watched this happen in my lifetime yet never spoke up. I by my silence allowed a huge group of people--including myself! to become sub-human. When I was young people smoked everywhere--doctors offices, grocery stores. I can remember how angry my Mother was when her doctor advised her to smoke so she would lose weight. She hated smoking so maybe that is why I stood by I didn't let her know I was a smoker until I was 19. By then more people where starting to take health warnings more seriously even though we could still smoke in hospitals there were those who'd gripe about the cost or call them cancer sticks. I remember a friend's Mom who was talking about the new taxes and worried that someday cigarettes would cost a dollar a pack.
A few years later the bans started. It used to be at the mall we'd walk around with a cigarette yes we put them out before we went into the stores but walking around was fine. We were allowed to go into food areas and smoke also. We were still people then. Suddenly an ordinance was passed and all smokers had to congregate in a few select areas of the mall and OMG! Those were bad!! Even my non-smoking friends and relatives where appalled everyone agreed it was so much better when smoking was not confined to one place--back then you MIGHT catch an occasional smell but that was it but with the new way confining smokers to one place it was overwhelming...even to smokers. WE started going outside instead because that was gross!! Too many people confined to a very small space THAT is what caused the problem! It was ok in some places that had rooms set aside for smokers because it was ventilated too.
I was mostly too busy with life to pay much attention to all of this. My only concern was the price of my vice so I switched to generics. But then more bans my brother (never smoker) told me about new bans going in bars now that he thought were way stupid. The bingo halls started smoking and non rooms later on the state tried to ban smoking in the halls but attendance went down so much that the organizations managed to get the rooms with the special filters re-opened. Suddenly faster and faster bans were all over. I wasn't allowed to go to the parks the zoo damn near anywhere. I had to get away from doors even during a heavy rainstorm. I was looked at with contempt encouraged by tobacco control. A doctor actually yelled at my husband for being a smoker when he had health problems--the world had decided it had the right to tell us how to live now. People who used to be polite now felt it was their right to order smokers around tell us we are trash now potheads and alcoholics have respect but smokers are trash. Funny when I was young it was very different smoking a cigarette didn't make you mean or stupid or impaired it actually simply either gave you a moment to think or calm down or sharpened your mind so you think clearly but now its the bad guy. To be quite honest I would say alcohol has killed more people I lost a close friend at the age of 16 to a drunk driver. No matter what bs they lie about 2nd hand smoking only hurts the person. I have known too many people from smoking families who are kicking and old. Truth is tobacco control has an agenda to get rich so they lie.
Anyway my kids wanted me to become a non smoker and my friend's kids wanted the same for him too so we tried the vaping way. To our shock and surprise it works. Freaking weird!! But according to public health we are STILL trash. They seem to be mostly angry because they are loosing money and damnit! It is their money!! We are supposed to smoke pay taxes and take whatever they want to throw at us. We have no rights according to them we are not people. Shit they won't even allow our success stories on their quitting sites--http://smokefree.gov/journey ---- clear disclaimer from their site:
The information presented in these stories is based on the experience of individual smokers and does not represent NCI’s position or policy.
(*) Posts which advocate the use of non-FDA approved nicotine products may be removed.
And they HAVE removed loads of them!!
Public Heath? Or elite dictators? Privileged class who earn their living very comfortably getting rich through demeaning and punitive actions aimed directly at us. They lie. They said they simply wanted the end to smoking yet instead are determined to make us smoke again by denying us use of a product that even with their cherry-picked science they can't deny is much better for our health. To me it looks like panic and temper tantrums from them over money and power never health. To me all their garbage over vaping simply shows the truth they are all nothing but liars. Oh and I am not the only one who now believes this!! Everyone who watches your train wreck is disgusted. We no longer trust you that is why your warnings on vaccines on flu shots on damn near anything are now met with a raised eyebrow. Public health officials now need to prove themselves willing to work for real public health and not just money power and prestige
To those who don't believe me look around. Follow the money.
Senator prove it!
I am NO longer a smoker. That alone should be applauded by all of you in government who told me for years what a horrible person I am because I smoked. I was taxed by you at insane rates supposedly to help pay for extra healthcare costs but in reality have gone to fund those in tobacco control who were my tormentors the ones who denied me access to parks, zoos, the ones who shut me out of life by telling all over and over I was a smelly disgusting horrid person and invited all to come and freely torment me even taught children it is ok to harass & bully people who smoke or choose to be different.
My sin taxes -the ones that were supposed to go on my healthcare costs are used for so many things to prop up government spending is another example. You sold your tobacco bonds expecting there to always be smokers plenty of us--and now there is trouble. We quit.
But hey you have an ace!! We did not quit the 'right way' which as you know fails most of the time. People are always quitting smoking but no worries they always come back---except this time. Suddenly we really are quitting. Thousands and thousands of us ARE quitting and the dual use ones the ones not quite ready ready to quit completely are slowing down so they also do not need to buy as many cigarettes. I am sure panic ensued by the huge loss of revenues in "your" money--until someone remembered well yes these e-cigarettes are NOT regulated!!
Now every day the public hears new horror stories about vaping. So many studies which are carefully manipulated to give bad results and hastily released to the public as media headlines the later retractions are a small easily missed squib several days later. The studies showing how much safer vaping is, the ones showing no danger to bystanders the ones showing room air is about the same as just breathing --those are suppressed. Real studies by respected scientists--not just "sponsored" by ones with an agenda are ignored. The media is bought and paid for so they will only publish news that fits with tobacco control's views since those are the ones that support increased taxes and/or outright banning the most amazing invention of our time which can replace burning combustible cigarettes for good.
So now you are all following the same mode and trying to do the same things you did to us as smokers--humiliate us, tell us we are no good addicts, push us around and take our money saying its for our own good. As before you are encourage others to berate us tell us we are no good vapors, addicts, nasty things now some are saying we should be all shot to death in front of our families it was later passed off as a bad joke but it keeps coming back. Tobacco Control and you encourage that hostile behavior. You encourage it not telling facts about vaping-- honest verifiable facts instead you use conjecture, play on fears and plain lie.
It is true we vapors are not following the script you laid out for us before when we were smokers. We refuse to be bullied anymore to be told to just die. We reject your taxes and controls on a product that causes no harm to anyone. We are the ones who are using these we know the truth because we live it daily. We are the ones who developed breathing problems from smoking cigarettes which are now so much better! We are also the ones who keep improving this product to make it eventually work for all smokers. We have lived it we do know any burning combustible material IS the real problem as would anyone who has been near a fire. We know nicotine is similar to caffeine both can be dangerous when used improperly yet can also be safe for adults even beneficial for many ailments such as Parkinson's or Dementia. Dose makes the poison in all things even water. We know vaping is improving our lung function--many of us (including me) no longer need to use inhalers. We know nicotine is not really very addictive--I a former 42 year 2+ pack daily smoker rarely use nicotine 2 years out. We know vaping IS a life saver--real research the ones not using an agenda like forcing a product beyond its capabilities to do harm--is showing vaping is fairly safe. This is not a gateway too smoking--another last ditch smear--it is a gateway OUT. The flavors help tremendously also to move people away and excuse me appealing to children? Lots of things appeal to children--inducing fruity cleaning products--it is the adults responsibility to keep it away from them. Also keeping their parents around having them vape instead is good for the kids. All of these very weak arguments prove how much better vaping IS since none are truths just conjecture --to me it sounds like a 4 year old making up tales to cover misdeeds. The real facts are what is needed.
We are not anti research but we are against self-serving lies as the ones told by tobacco control and certain public health officials who see their funding dry up because of vaping. We are against self-serving lies told in government to protect their sin tax money. We are against ALL who would rather have us smoke burning combustible cigarettes simply to protect their ideals and financing. We are people not anecdotes--- " regarded as unreliable or hearsay"--as some health groups enjoy calling us. We are real living breathing people.We are growing in numbers. We also have friends and family who see the difference in us! Are they saying anecdotal stories about us when they talk about us to others telling them it worked for us? I know many who have quit or at least cut down smoking because of vaping.
One thing you senators, public health, tobacco control, governmental officials seem to forget--we may be smokers and former smokers who are now vapors--the ones you all feel entitled to disregard, humiliate and show utter complete contempt to because "you don't like vapors/smokers" That is prejudice extreme unrelenting hostile nasty prejudice. WE are people. We have huge numbers of friends and family on our sides who are thrilled we are vaping--- they love & care about us. They know you are in the wrong to deny citizens this life saving gift. The younger generation--ages 20- 35 are the ones who encouraged me to vape they did their homework and hoped it would work for me. It did.
Prove harm first. No more lies. I want to see if any one in government is worth it anymore or are you all only able to follow the golden goose and lie instead of looking for hard facts oh and they are very easy to find you can start here: harm reduction or here: casaa
Also perhaps it is time to take a good hard thoughtful look at tobacco control suppression of facts isn't good for the public and costs lives
My sin taxes -the ones that were supposed to go on my healthcare costs are used for so many things to prop up government spending is another example. You sold your tobacco bonds expecting there to always be smokers plenty of us--and now there is trouble. We quit.
But hey you have an ace!! We did not quit the 'right way' which as you know fails most of the time. People are always quitting smoking but no worries they always come back---except this time. Suddenly we really are quitting. Thousands and thousands of us ARE quitting and the dual use ones the ones not quite ready ready to quit completely are slowing down so they also do not need to buy as many cigarettes. I am sure panic ensued by the huge loss of revenues in "your" money--until someone remembered well yes these e-cigarettes are NOT regulated!!
Now every day the public hears new horror stories about vaping. So many studies which are carefully manipulated to give bad results and hastily released to the public as media headlines the later retractions are a small easily missed squib several days later. The studies showing how much safer vaping is, the ones showing no danger to bystanders the ones showing room air is about the same as just breathing --those are suppressed. Real studies by respected scientists--not just "sponsored" by ones with an agenda are ignored. The media is bought and paid for so they will only publish news that fits with tobacco control's views since those are the ones that support increased taxes and/or outright banning the most amazing invention of our time which can replace burning combustible cigarettes for good.
So now you are all following the same mode and trying to do the same things you did to us as smokers--humiliate us, tell us we are no good addicts, push us around and take our money saying its for our own good. As before you are encourage others to berate us tell us we are no good vapors, addicts, nasty things now some are saying we should be all shot to death in front of our families it was later passed off as a bad joke but it keeps coming back. Tobacco Control and you encourage that hostile behavior. You encourage it not telling facts about vaping-- honest verifiable facts instead you use conjecture, play on fears and plain lie.
It is true we vapors are not following the script you laid out for us before when we were smokers. We refuse to be bullied anymore to be told to just die. We reject your taxes and controls on a product that causes no harm to anyone. We are the ones who are using these we know the truth because we live it daily. We are the ones who developed breathing problems from smoking cigarettes which are now so much better! We are also the ones who keep improving this product to make it eventually work for all smokers. We have lived it we do know any burning combustible material IS the real problem as would anyone who has been near a fire. We know nicotine is similar to caffeine both can be dangerous when used improperly yet can also be safe for adults even beneficial for many ailments such as Parkinson's or Dementia. Dose makes the poison in all things even water. We know vaping is improving our lung function--many of us (including me) no longer need to use inhalers. We know nicotine is not really very addictive--I a former 42 year 2+ pack daily smoker rarely use nicotine 2 years out. We know vaping IS a life saver--real research the ones not using an agenda like forcing a product beyond its capabilities to do harm--is showing vaping is fairly safe. This is not a gateway too smoking--another last ditch smear--it is a gateway OUT. The flavors help tremendously also to move people away and excuse me appealing to children? Lots of things appeal to children--inducing fruity cleaning products--it is the adults responsibility to keep it away from them. Also keeping their parents around having them vape instead is good for the kids. All of these very weak arguments prove how much better vaping IS since none are truths just conjecture --to me it sounds like a 4 year old making up tales to cover misdeeds. The real facts are what is needed.
We are not anti research but we are against self-serving lies as the ones told by tobacco control and certain public health officials who see their funding dry up because of vaping. We are against self-serving lies told in government to protect their sin tax money. We are against ALL who would rather have us smoke burning combustible cigarettes simply to protect their ideals and financing. We are people not anecdotes--- " regarded as unreliable or hearsay"--as some health groups enjoy calling us. We are real living breathing people.We are growing in numbers. We also have friends and family who see the difference in us! Are they saying anecdotal stories about us when they talk about us to others telling them it worked for us? I know many who have quit or at least cut down smoking because of vaping.
One thing you senators, public health, tobacco control, governmental officials seem to forget--we may be smokers and former smokers who are now vapors--the ones you all feel entitled to disregard, humiliate and show utter complete contempt to because "you don't like vapors/smokers" That is prejudice extreme unrelenting hostile nasty prejudice. WE are people. We have huge numbers of friends and family on our sides who are thrilled we are vaping--- they love & care about us. They know you are in the wrong to deny citizens this life saving gift. The younger generation--ages 20- 35 are the ones who encouraged me to vape they did their homework and hoped it would work for me. It did.
Prove harm first. No more lies. I want to see if any one in government is worth it anymore or are you all only able to follow the golden goose and lie instead of looking for hard facts oh and they are very easy to find you can start here: harm reduction or here: casaa
Also perhaps it is time to take a good hard thoughtful look at tobacco control suppression of facts isn't good for the public and costs lives
Thursday, July 24, 2014
fda COMMENT
Rough draft of my FDA comments
I am a widow my husband died of lung cancer and yet I still could not quit smoking even with first hand knowledge of how horrible cancer is. I was unable to stop for my children who where teens at the time and begged. I was truly addicted for over 42 years never able to stop my 2+ pack a day habit more than a few days even with patches, gum, pills--I expected to die with a cigarette in my hand but figured well it helped me to think when I needed to make hard decisions. Cigarettes comforted me those long nights when the world sleeps but I was in so much pain from grief,and frankly cigarettes are much more than just an addiction they are a way to cope to take a few seconds to think or to calm you--they were my lifeline they bought me time a few seconds to clearly think square my shoulders and go on.
I honestly never dreamed I would be saying this as a FORMER heavy smoker yet I am. Funny it started out with a dear friend challenging me to quit with him. Neither of us thought it would work we'd both attempted to quit before with friends & loved ones using patches & gum but I never lasted more than 5 days in addition he had tried acupuncture, hypnosis and pills (chantix, wellburtrin) before but he never lasted over 8 months so of course we both expected to fail with this e cigarette thing which my non smoking kids wanted me to try so we picked up some of those look alike things. They were close got the hand action but the vapor just didn't quite make it still missing something--and we were told about ego style and vv about different temps and they suggested flavors instead of his Marlboro or my menthol crazy talk!! But then we tried this new way....!!!!! It works!! We are both in our late 50's we never expected to be NON smokers but we are!!! While it is true he still occasionally uses a tobacco/fruit flavored juice at times we are both so into all the wonderful flavors now yes candy, desserts, fruits, heck gum type flavors!! We have found the flavors distance us even more from cigarettes and make it worth all the extra effort. I now hate tobacco and I can smell I can breathe I no longer use inhalers I no longer have a smokers cough or carry cough drops around constantly I no longer have to sleep with an air purifier or have the constant ache from a deep breath. ..I am a non smoker and have been for over 18 months!!!!! We both are and we have gotten several friends to also switch!! For the first time there is a way that really does work and yet it seems the powers in charge want to destroy it. They want us to use tobacco not vape because otherwise they have nothing to fight or take advantage of us with to look down on to destroy our lives by not allowing us freedoms. Smokers are unfairly taxed and victimized now they want to destroy and victimize vaping too with the same prejudice they apply to smokers. Funny smoking is easy rip the pack over shove that puppy in the mouth light up. Vaping we have to worry about chargers. batteries, juices, atty's so much more but so worth it.
I am not a smoker anymore. I haven't been one for over 18 months. If you proceed as planned I guess I do need to learn how to diy juices, wrap rebuild coils because I am not going back. I also will not use those cig-a-likes or switch tobacco only flavors might as well smoke with those which is easier anyway. Everyone I know is the same so then you really will have nicotine poisonings since there are a lot of dummies who don't understand that it is concentrated not pre-mixed as they are used too and concentrated is dangerous unlike mixed e-juice and needs precautions that will be government's fault especially to those who don't understand to protect and serve people you have to understand them and their needs not just your own agendas. I personally often don't use nicotine but I do on occasions when I need help thinking clearly true a low dose but necessary to keep me where I am. With this reg I won't be able to buy my juice from vendors I know and trust to do it right they will be gone and thousands of small business will disappear only big tobacco companies will be left--the same companies that have been adding so much to tobacco it is now more deadly than ever. Will this happen to their ejuice also? I expect so since there wont be such a strong vaping community ready to make this widely known and there will not be another choice for ones containing nicotine. It's just we won't be using them oh sure maybe some newbies but we will all be making our own zero-nicotine juice from easily available food items and many will find a way to get that nicotine so I expect there will be a new thriving black market. Totally sad and avoidable juice should be under food regulations anyway NOT tobacco control. It may look like smoking but ask ANY smoker it is not however! vaping it is something we can do instead.
I joined CASSA shortly after I started vaping and found out there is controversy over using vaping to quit smoking. I was shocked that anyone would condemn this I was sheltered by the fact all that I knew were PRO vaping and were thrilled that I could quit smoking this way. I am an American citizen who is now a non smoker because of vaping. My vaping community supports innovation and helping as many as possible to discover vaping to find what will work for them individually to allow all to finally quit dying from smoking -people like my husband. We know that if allowed to grow vaping will put an end to smoking--burning combustible deadly tobacco for good. True the opposition will loose tobacco related income but it is time for real changes to save lives and that is what this is supposed to be about--people not money. E-cigarettes should be a weapon in the fight against smoking because that is what they are an answer to a prayer for a smoke-free world.
I am a widow my husband died of lung cancer and yet I still could not quit smoking even with first hand knowledge of how horrible cancer is. I was unable to stop for my children who where teens at the time and begged. I was truly addicted for over 42 years never able to stop my 2+ pack a day habit more than a few days even with patches, gum, pills--I expected to die with a cigarette in my hand but figured well it helped me to think when I needed to make hard decisions. Cigarettes comforted me those long nights when the world sleeps but I was in so much pain from grief,and frankly cigarettes are much more than just an addiction they are a way to cope to take a few seconds to think or to calm you--they were my lifeline they bought me time a few seconds to clearly think square my shoulders and go on.
I honestly never dreamed I would be saying this as a FORMER heavy smoker yet I am. Funny it started out with a dear friend challenging me to quit with him. Neither of us thought it would work we'd both attempted to quit before with friends & loved ones using patches & gum but I never lasted more than 5 days in addition he had tried acupuncture, hypnosis and pills (chantix, wellburtrin) before but he never lasted over 8 months so of course we both expected to fail with this e cigarette thing which my non smoking kids wanted me to try so we picked up some of those look alike things. They were close got the hand action but the vapor just didn't quite make it still missing something--and we were told about ego style and vv about different temps and they suggested flavors instead of his Marlboro or my menthol crazy talk!! But then we tried this new way....!!!!! It works!! We are both in our late 50's we never expected to be NON smokers but we are!!! While it is true he still occasionally uses a tobacco/fruit flavored juice at times we are both so into all the wonderful flavors now yes candy, desserts, fruits, heck gum type flavors!! We have found the flavors distance us even more from cigarettes and make it worth all the extra effort. I now hate tobacco and I can smell I can breathe I no longer use inhalers I no longer have a smokers cough or carry cough drops around constantly I no longer have to sleep with an air purifier or have the constant ache from a deep breath. ..I am a non smoker and have been for over 18 months!!!!! We both are and we have gotten several friends to also switch!! For the first time there is a way that really does work and yet it seems the powers in charge want to destroy it. They want us to use tobacco not vape because otherwise they have nothing to fight or take advantage of us with to look down on to destroy our lives by not allowing us freedoms. Smokers are unfairly taxed and victimized now they want to destroy and victimize vaping too with the same prejudice they apply to smokers. Funny smoking is easy rip the pack over shove that puppy in the mouth light up. Vaping we have to worry about chargers. batteries, juices, atty's so much more but so worth it.
I am not a smoker anymore. I haven't been one for over 18 months. If you proceed as planned I guess I do need to learn how to diy juices, wrap rebuild coils because I am not going back. I also will not use those cig-a-likes or switch tobacco only flavors might as well smoke with those which is easier anyway. Everyone I know is the same so then you really will have nicotine poisonings since there are a lot of dummies who don't understand that it is concentrated not pre-mixed as they are used too and concentrated is dangerous unlike mixed e-juice and needs precautions that will be government's fault especially to those who don't understand to protect and serve people you have to understand them and their needs not just your own agendas. I personally often don't use nicotine but I do on occasions when I need help thinking clearly true a low dose but necessary to keep me where I am. With this reg I won't be able to buy my juice from vendors I know and trust to do it right they will be gone and thousands of small business will disappear only big tobacco companies will be left--the same companies that have been adding so much to tobacco it is now more deadly than ever. Will this happen to their ejuice also? I expect so since there wont be such a strong vaping community ready to make this widely known and there will not be another choice for ones containing nicotine. It's just we won't be using them oh sure maybe some newbies but we will all be making our own zero-nicotine juice from easily available food items and many will find a way to get that nicotine so I expect there will be a new thriving black market. Totally sad and avoidable juice should be under food regulations anyway NOT tobacco control. It may look like smoking but ask ANY smoker it is not however! vaping it is something we can do instead.
I joined CASSA shortly after I started vaping and found out there is controversy over using vaping to quit smoking. I was shocked that anyone would condemn this I was sheltered by the fact all that I knew were PRO vaping and were thrilled that I could quit smoking this way. I am an American citizen who is now a non smoker because of vaping. My vaping community supports innovation and helping as many as possible to discover vaping to find what will work for them individually to allow all to finally quit dying from smoking -people like my husband. We know that if allowed to grow vaping will put an end to smoking--burning combustible deadly tobacco for good. True the opposition will loose tobacco related income but it is time for real changes to save lives and that is what this is supposed to be about--people not money. E-cigarettes should be a weapon in the fight against smoking because that is what they are an answer to a prayer for a smoke-free world.
Sunday, May 25, 2014
17 Months...
Ok I re read this blog today and most important YES I am still an ex smoker!! I do vape I need the hand to mouth the inhale the community, its a mix of things...but I mostly don't use nicotine now well in truth I didn't use it for months til I noticed a lot of forgetting problems coming on so I do occasionally use an extremely low ejuice with just 3 or 6 mg with nicotine and it has helped. But mostly its no nicotine ejuices for me it is not about nicotine addiction anymore been there done that so yes I know the difference now.
The ecig controversy is going on harder than ever and now the FDA has landed with heavy guns firing because of fools who simply don't like the fact that pharmacy companies did not develop and market ecigs then we'd all be angels. But exsmokers taking this into our own hands to find something that works really works something that also now involves a hobby type with new mods, atomizers, tanks, drip tips, holders fun snobby stuff along with practical items like loads of ejuice flavors which tease our new found sense of taste and gives up great pleasure is simply evil to them. The ANTZ are all up in arms. By vaping instead of smoking we are destroying their smug way of life where they can make loads of money off our addictions with useless and often dangerous pharmaceutical items, with all their so called quit smoking help groups, and worse we are also cutting deeply into their tax base!! In addiction to all of this we are out of control! We are no longer being submissive and shamed. We don't want to be shunned and left out of all the things we pay for with our tax dollars anymore. We know we are not hurting anyone with our vaping so now they are trying to pretend there is 2nd hand vape or we are trying to get kids addicted!!!! We are supposed to be shamed cowed and easily bullied by them.
The stupidest one is there insistence that adults dont like flavors so therefor we are marketing to kids. So with that one uh excuse me have you looked in the liquor store lately? Or even your beloved useless nicotine gum is now in flavors. We no longer smoke after years and wow!! STuff tastes good!!! Yes I do like cotton candy, chocolate cake, sweettarts type, lemoheads and many other flavors. I also now chew a lot of red flavored gums or lemon yum! Flavors wow we never knew how great they were!! I am 58 now almost 59 and I am worse than a kid .
Still the whole thing is stupid. Why cant the ANTZ groups especially cancer societies and lung organizations be happy and pat themselves on the back because of the huge decreases in the smoking rates? Isn't that what they wanted? A world without burning, combustible tobacco? Its now in reach.
The ecig controversy is going on harder than ever and now the FDA has landed with heavy guns firing because of fools who simply don't like the fact that pharmacy companies did not develop and market ecigs then we'd all be angels. But exsmokers taking this into our own hands to find something that works really works something that also now involves a hobby type with new mods, atomizers, tanks, drip tips, holders fun snobby stuff along with practical items like loads of ejuice flavors which tease our new found sense of taste and gives up great pleasure is simply evil to them. The ANTZ are all up in arms. By vaping instead of smoking we are destroying their smug way of life where they can make loads of money off our addictions with useless and often dangerous pharmaceutical items, with all their so called quit smoking help groups, and worse we are also cutting deeply into their tax base!! In addiction to all of this we are out of control! We are no longer being submissive and shamed. We don't want to be shunned and left out of all the things we pay for with our tax dollars anymore. We know we are not hurting anyone with our vaping so now they are trying to pretend there is 2nd hand vape or we are trying to get kids addicted!!!! We are supposed to be shamed cowed and easily bullied by them.
The stupidest one is there insistence that adults dont like flavors so therefor we are marketing to kids. So with that one uh excuse me have you looked in the liquor store lately? Or even your beloved useless nicotine gum is now in flavors. We no longer smoke after years and wow!! STuff tastes good!!! Yes I do like cotton candy, chocolate cake, sweettarts type, lemoheads and many other flavors. I also now chew a lot of red flavored gums or lemon yum! Flavors wow we never knew how great they were!! I am 58 now almost 59 and I am worse than a kid .
Still the whole thing is stupid. Why cant the ANTZ groups especially cancer societies and lung organizations be happy and pat themselves on the back because of the huge decreases in the smoking rates? Isn't that what they wanted? A world without burning, combustible tobacco? Its now in reach.
Saturday, February 23, 2013
6 Weeks Strong
Wow! I believe I can now be called an ex smoker!! I haven't felt the need to post for a while I have been so interested in all the controversy surrounding e cigs! I think I can state with confidence that as long as e cigs are available I will stay an ex smoker no need for smelly smokes with this wonderful invention!! It is great even works when you are at a friend's house drinking!! Just vape no need for a smoke!!
I was rereading my earlier blogs lots of pain in them but I have pushed thru and wow! I am an ex smoker now. True I vape it fills the need the urge the craving all the things that make so many ex smokers start anew. If the powers that be ever DO decide to ban them then we all know the truth---it is not people or lives they care about it is power control greed and money. That would be terribly sad. I do get tired of those weird remarks about they are unsure what is in these huh excuse me? It is obvious! What they are unsure about even after all the years of study is what is in analog smokes. Scary stuff!!
I am not going to worry about vaping at all it works for me.
I was rereading my earlier blogs lots of pain in them but I have pushed thru and wow! I am an ex smoker now. True I vape it fills the need the urge the craving all the things that make so many ex smokers start anew. If the powers that be ever DO decide to ban them then we all know the truth---it is not people or lives they care about it is power control greed and money. That would be terribly sad. I do get tired of those weird remarks about they are unsure what is in these huh excuse me? It is obvious! What they are unsure about even after all the years of study is what is in analog smokes. Scary stuff!!
I am not going to worry about vaping at all it works for me.
Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Thoughts about e cigs
To those who care I am NOT pushing ecigs onto anyone but smokers like me who need to quit. It works for me it has been almost a full month without for me and my kids have already noticed a difference in me. I no longer cough a lot. I no longer need to use my inhaler at all. The yellow stains on my fingers are gone! I can smell! I could NOT use the patches, etc. but I can use these! I have met on line hundreds more like me that have quit with these. When something works really works with easily identifiable ingredients easily tested why is there so much controversy? Don't they want us to finally be able to quit for good? I wonder especially when I read what is going on with all those who should be happy we are finally able to move away from smoking for good. Honestly I still havent heard any good reasons to ban these what they need to do is support them for people like me instead of the "big pharmacy" items that do not work!
So many of us wonder why the FDA, the strong anti smoking groups, the American lung association so many more why are you so down on these? Instead of really checking into them see if they do work as so many of us former smokers say they do they out right reject them and insist we use all their standard treatments and programs that flat out do not work for most of us!
It makes NO sense. So we come up with the simple answers that do make sense--it all comes down to money, power and control. All of you make money off our addictions and hey! smokers are now so beaten up it is fairly easy to add on more taxes to "help us" or to supposedly teach kids not to smoke or so on.
These groups seem to need to have us smoking for their bottom line. Can any of you deny that?
I am not an activist I am just an older woman who would like to have a few extra years so maybe someday I will be able to play with my future grandchildren. I don't care about politics. I cry over the news especially when some tragedy happens to children. I am convinced smoking is terrible I lost my husband to lung cancer! I have cleaned walls covered in yellow yuk. I have seen the same stains on my own fingers. I switched long ago to outside smoking. I have asthma. I was coughing a lot! I was waking up chocking many times a night! I had to sleep with a air cleaner next to me just to breathe while laying down! I knew it was killing me!!
But now already it is better! So much better. I can smell the nasty smell when my nephew comes in after having a smoke and I am shocked I used to smell that bad! I have not used my asthma inhaler for 3 weeks! So many changes for me in such a short time.
So I ask again how can you deny this lifesaving gift and want to ban, ridicule deny it helps? Why can't you simply ask us the people it helps and embrace the new technology instead of staying stuck in the dark ages of forcing us to still smoke because we cannot quit your way!
So many of us wonder why the FDA, the strong anti smoking groups, the American lung association so many more why are you so down on these? Instead of really checking into them see if they do work as so many of us former smokers say they do they out right reject them and insist we use all their standard treatments and programs that flat out do not work for most of us!
It makes NO sense. So we come up with the simple answers that do make sense--it all comes down to money, power and control. All of you make money off our addictions and hey! smokers are now so beaten up it is fairly easy to add on more taxes to "help us" or to supposedly teach kids not to smoke or so on.
These groups seem to need to have us smoking for their bottom line. Can any of you deny that?
I am not an activist I am just an older woman who would like to have a few extra years so maybe someday I will be able to play with my future grandchildren. I don't care about politics. I cry over the news especially when some tragedy happens to children. I am convinced smoking is terrible I lost my husband to lung cancer! I have cleaned walls covered in yellow yuk. I have seen the same stains on my own fingers. I switched long ago to outside smoking. I have asthma. I was coughing a lot! I was waking up chocking many times a night! I had to sleep with a air cleaner next to me just to breathe while laying down! I knew it was killing me!!
But now already it is better! So much better. I can smell the nasty smell when my nephew comes in after having a smoke and I am shocked I used to smell that bad! I have not used my asthma inhaler for 3 weeks! So many changes for me in such a short time.
So I ask again how can you deny this lifesaving gift and want to ban, ridicule deny it helps? Why can't you simply ask us the people it helps and embrace the new technology instead of staying stuck in the dark ages of forcing us to still smoke because we cannot quit your way!
Monday, February 4, 2013
Reflections
I was talking with my kids last night and suddenly remembered I have forgotten to use my prescription allergy nose sprays for a while and haven't needed my inhaler for several weeks now! My chest no longer gets that horrible tightness, I am no longer coughing, and I can smell all sorts of things. Wow!
Rick is so shocked about how easy it was for him to quit this time he has tried everything patches, pills, gum--name it if it was supposed to help he tried it but these e cigs are so much different. We are still getting the hand to mouth action, the "smoke" to help you think clearer the nicotine so there are no major withdrawals all without all of the bad stuff in cigarettes. My biggest problem right now is my nephew Tim who tried my toranado twist loved the "smoke" ordered one for himself but keeps using mine until his comes in! With that who needs a "real" cigarette?
I am a total e cig convert. I will admit my kids did get me one long ago when they first came out but it was much harder to use then I liked it but couldnt get a good draw off it and kept getting my mouth full of crud. I have kept it and kept the idea in the back of my mind well with all the improvements the new cartridge systems etc it is a done deal for me now.I like the idea of varying amounts of nicotine I know the FDA insists there is no different in low tar/low nicotine versions of smokes and full flavor but there is! I switched to light smokes 25 years ago and could not handle the heavier concentrations which is the reason I suspect the patches etc made me so sick! With these different concentrations of nicotine I can use a lower dose one which works great for me keeps me content and focused!
Truthfully the anti smoking groups spout a lot of stuff any heavy smoker knows is not true anyway like the above example of no difference between light and full flavor smokes. Why do scare tactics and half truths in their ads now instead of simple straight forward facts? Why stupid graphic stuff on a pack of smokes? Uh excuse me? Don't they know a real smoker rarely LOOKS at the damn pack? I smoked for over 40 years and while I know there are warnings all over the pack I cannot tell you what they say I kept the damn pack in a case! I barely glanced at it and then only to quickly rip the pack/carton open so I could shove it into my mouth! Get real! And now instead of accepting even embracing new technology that will save lives they look down their noses and want to ban this too!
Simple truth everything in life involves risks. While smoking heavily I kept telling everyone that. It is true we don't know what will happen. We all come with built in expiration dates.Life is stressful. We all have varying ways to cope some overeating (which I also did) some drugs some risky dangerous sports the list is endless. We need to have less risky options too. We have to share this world so many people now feel a sense of entitlement the "do as I say as I want" with strict rules and codes rigid unyielding no compromise.Sure wish they would accept that others have rights too . There are just way too many laws rules and regulations all designed to make us fit into a carefully controlled box. And violence is exploding way out of bounds. There is no tolerance for being different anymore. No respect for being an individual ...I often wonder if the intolerance is what makes it worse more of the monkey see monkey do mentality of violence. In schools it is no longer acceptable that people have different kinds of smart some are hand some creative some book smart to name a few. More later I am depressing myself
Rick is so shocked about how easy it was for him to quit this time he has tried everything patches, pills, gum--name it if it was supposed to help he tried it but these e cigs are so much different. We are still getting the hand to mouth action, the "smoke" to help you think clearer the nicotine so there are no major withdrawals all without all of the bad stuff in cigarettes. My biggest problem right now is my nephew Tim who tried my toranado twist loved the "smoke" ordered one for himself but keeps using mine until his comes in! With that who needs a "real" cigarette?
I am a total e cig convert. I will admit my kids did get me one long ago when they first came out but it was much harder to use then I liked it but couldnt get a good draw off it and kept getting my mouth full of crud. I have kept it and kept the idea in the back of my mind well with all the improvements the new cartridge systems etc it is a done deal for me now.I like the idea of varying amounts of nicotine I know the FDA insists there is no different in low tar/low nicotine versions of smokes and full flavor but there is! I switched to light smokes 25 years ago and could not handle the heavier concentrations which is the reason I suspect the patches etc made me so sick! With these different concentrations of nicotine I can use a lower dose one which works great for me keeps me content and focused!
Truthfully the anti smoking groups spout a lot of stuff any heavy smoker knows is not true anyway like the above example of no difference between light and full flavor smokes. Why do scare tactics and half truths in their ads now instead of simple straight forward facts? Why stupid graphic stuff on a pack of smokes? Uh excuse me? Don't they know a real smoker rarely LOOKS at the damn pack? I smoked for over 40 years and while I know there are warnings all over the pack I cannot tell you what they say I kept the damn pack in a case! I barely glanced at it and then only to quickly rip the pack/carton open so I could shove it into my mouth! Get real! And now instead of accepting even embracing new technology that will save lives they look down their noses and want to ban this too!
Simple truth everything in life involves risks. While smoking heavily I kept telling everyone that. It is true we don't know what will happen. We all come with built in expiration dates.Life is stressful. We all have varying ways to cope some overeating (which I also did) some drugs some risky dangerous sports the list is endless. We need to have less risky options too. We have to share this world so many people now feel a sense of entitlement the "do as I say as I want" with strict rules and codes rigid unyielding no compromise.Sure wish they would accept that others have rights too . There are just way too many laws rules and regulations all designed to make us fit into a carefully controlled box. And violence is exploding way out of bounds. There is no tolerance for being different anymore. No respect for being an individual ...I often wonder if the intolerance is what makes it worse more of the monkey see monkey do mentality of violence. In schools it is no longer acceptable that people have different kinds of smart some are hand some creative some book smart to name a few. More later I am depressing myself
Sunday, February 3, 2013
E smokes
Ok they keep going on about how ecigs are unproven dangerous whatever but they refuse to listen to REAL people those of us who are long term HEAVY smokers who have QUIT smoking real cigs with these after trying all the medically approved useless crap! E cigs WORK! Bottom line they are breaking the smoking addictions in so many of us! They are safer than real cigs--that is common sense! I have quit cold turkey for 3 full weeks this time because of e cigs I have no desire to ever smoke a real cig again! I was ready to go back to them when my non smoking kids brought me one and asked me to try it. It works! Aren't the thousands like me and many of my friends proof enough that this silly little device works? If all the non smoking groups truly wanted us to quit they would support these things! My doctor does but then he cares about me as his patient as real living human being not just some abstract silly argument like the "ban e smokes" groups do. Simple fact these work!
So why are they the powers that be trying to ban something that really does work to help us quit this smoking addiction? Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Update
I have come to the conclusion all the controversy about e cigs is not health reasons at all flat out we all know they are so much safer than smoking and I do not believe cause any 2nd hand smoke since there is no smoke.
The simple truth to me and others is They want Power, Control and of course money. They do not care that these crazy things help us to quit smoking or at least cut down to one or two a day(a few friends yes still do 1 or 2 but way down from 2+ packs daily). I have had several people friends of friends etc contact me now desperate--as I was--to quit and having terrible side affects from what is "approved" treatments as I did. The simple truth is these things help. They help a lot.With them I can quit smoking cigarettes. Some friends are so amazed and thrilled since they can too. Simple facts from real people. The huge organizations opposing something that IS helping us with their lame excuses is appalling. You want people to quit smoking? Then why not listen to us to the smokers trying so hard to quit!
So why are they the powers that be trying to ban something that really does work to help us quit this smoking addiction? Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Update
I have come to the conclusion all the controversy about e cigs is not health reasons at all flat out we all know they are so much safer than smoking and I do not believe cause any 2nd hand smoke since there is no smoke.
The simple truth to me and others is They want Power, Control and of course money. They do not care that these crazy things help us to quit smoking or at least cut down to one or two a day(a few friends yes still do 1 or 2 but way down from 2+ packs daily). I have had several people friends of friends etc contact me now desperate--as I was--to quit and having terrible side affects from what is "approved" treatments as I did. The simple truth is these things help. They help a lot.With them I can quit smoking cigarettes. Some friends are so amazed and thrilled since they can too. Simple facts from real people. The huge organizations opposing something that IS helping us with their lame excuses is appalling. You want people to quit smoking? Then why not listen to us to the smokers trying so hard to quit!
3 Weeks!
Ok I made it this far!! All I can really say is wow! And I am so glad they now make e smokes!! The other nicotine replacements do not work well at all they do not satisfy they give bad headaches they (at least for me) made me ill all day.
I have been reading pros and cons on the e smoke debate. All the naysayers go on about it being "unproven" harmful" addictive" and even says it is encouraging smoking for minors gasp!! Ok people lets address these issues with common sense which it seems to me most of you do not bother to use anymore.
First harmful---uh excuse me? Is there anything about tobacco products that isn't harmful? Isn't that the whole point of quitting?? They cause extreme harm. They release thousands of toxic chemicals. They cause thousands of deaths each year.
Second--unproven umm well more and more people I personally know swear by them because they have tried so many times under medically approved ways to quit and failed! Many of us suspect the real problem is all the bigger ups havent got their huge hands in this pocket yer. Products like patches, gums, etc are EXPENSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have lots of lozenges and patches left I will never use and they cost me a lot to buy in the first place! My first sample of an e cig cost me less than half of either of those products and helped me decide what will work for me. I honestly believe the whole REAL true arguement against is they want to have their hands in the pockets to raise the price.
Anti smoking groups hate them because they mimic the act of smoking. So what? Would you rather have to walk thru clouds of smoke?
And as for encouraging kids to smoke...ok easy way to solve this problem Call them a QUIT smoking device!! Gee! Make it uncool a granny/grandpa thing! Something to help us old folks!
Why do so many groups have to make a mountain out of this molehill? With enough support for these things to break our addiction for the real thing ALL you anti smoking groups will get what you say you really want! A world without smoking! It is new technology ah gee so was a phone, computer loads of other items at one time.
I have been reading pros and cons on the e smoke debate. All the naysayers go on about it being "unproven" harmful" addictive" and even says it is encouraging smoking for minors gasp!! Ok people lets address these issues with common sense which it seems to me most of you do not bother to use anymore.
First harmful---uh excuse me? Is there anything about tobacco products that isn't harmful? Isn't that the whole point of quitting?? They cause extreme harm. They release thousands of toxic chemicals. They cause thousands of deaths each year.
Second--unproven umm well more and more people I personally know swear by them because they have tried so many times under medically approved ways to quit and failed! Many of us suspect the real problem is all the bigger ups havent got their huge hands in this pocket yer. Products like patches, gums, etc are EXPENSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have lots of lozenges and patches left I will never use and they cost me a lot to buy in the first place! My first sample of an e cig cost me less than half of either of those products and helped me decide what will work for me. I honestly believe the whole REAL true arguement against is they want to have their hands in the pockets to raise the price.
Anti smoking groups hate them because they mimic the act of smoking. So what? Would you rather have to walk thru clouds of smoke?
And as for encouraging kids to smoke...ok easy way to solve this problem Call them a QUIT smoking device!! Gee! Make it uncool a granny/grandpa thing! Something to help us old folks!
Why do so many groups have to make a mountain out of this molehill? With enough support for these things to break our addiction for the real thing ALL you anti smoking groups will get what you say you really want! A world without smoking! It is new technology ah gee so was a phone, computer loads of other items at one time.
Sunday, January 27, 2013
2 weeks!!
Well here is a 1st ever for me 2 full weeks without a smoke!!! Absolutely amazing!!!!Lol most people would never have believed this heck I didnt think I'd ever quit!!
I do get worried about switching one addiction to another so I am monitoring my e smokes but dont think it will be a problem its more like something to take the edge off like the patch and lozenges were supposed to do but failed miserably. Figure I will give myself a month or two on them and then get rid of them. I am on the medium doze of nicotine with them next time will get the lowest and I think after several weeks on that go to the cartridges with no nicotine and then set them aside for only when I need something lol it will still be hand/mouth pacifier action but just a mist. All I have to say is they help a great deal so I am glad they are now available. In my opinion they can outlaw smokes and simply promote the e cig once you get used to the way they work its a great substitute.
I havent written in this thing for several days just being lazy and lol not really thinking as much on smoking anymore. I have identified several reasons why I smoked--it gave me something to do outside. For example I'd go outside smoke, walk around, read...while waiting for people in the store or whatever I'd walk around outside enjoying a smoke. Unless it is raining hard really cold and blowy I rather enjoy being outside walking around. I have now given myself permission just to go walk around without a smoke. And soon I will be able to grow my tomatoes again so another good thing. The real test will be sitting outside reading...without a smoke. That was so automatic and such a joy. With my kindle during warm months I could read as long as I wished didnt have to worry about light. I'd stay out for hours...well I can still do that. Still will be so nice outside smelling all my flowers with my kindle and no worries about a stray wind sending smoke into my eyes! Hum but have to do something about mosquitoes lol my smokes would mostly keep them away won't have that anymore!
I do get worried about switching one addiction to another so I am monitoring my e smokes but dont think it will be a problem its more like something to take the edge off like the patch and lozenges were supposed to do but failed miserably. Figure I will give myself a month or two on them and then get rid of them. I am on the medium doze of nicotine with them next time will get the lowest and I think after several weeks on that go to the cartridges with no nicotine and then set them aside for only when I need something lol it will still be hand/mouth pacifier action but just a mist. All I have to say is they help a great deal so I am glad they are now available. In my opinion they can outlaw smokes and simply promote the e cig once you get used to the way they work its a great substitute.
I havent written in this thing for several days just being lazy and lol not really thinking as much on smoking anymore. I have identified several reasons why I smoked--it gave me something to do outside. For example I'd go outside smoke, walk around, read...while waiting for people in the store or whatever I'd walk around outside enjoying a smoke. Unless it is raining hard really cold and blowy I rather enjoy being outside walking around. I have now given myself permission just to go walk around without a smoke. And soon I will be able to grow my tomatoes again so another good thing. The real test will be sitting outside reading...without a smoke. That was so automatic and such a joy. With my kindle during warm months I could read as long as I wished didnt have to worry about light. I'd stay out for hours...well I can still do that. Still will be so nice outside smelling all my flowers with my kindle and no worries about a stray wind sending smoke into my eyes! Hum but have to do something about mosquitoes lol my smokes would mostly keep them away won't have that anymore!
Tuesday, January 22, 2013
Day 10
I am kind of up in arms again! Lawmakers are excitedly proposing another new $1 a pack tax hike on cigarettes this time to supposedly finance scholarships yea right. Just like all the other tax hikes are supposed to be used for certain things and wind up going into raises for ones who are already making good money not the grunts who really do the work.
And this tax hike is simply another way to punish poor addicted people gee for being poor and addicted. All the dumb ass arguments like the price hikes keep teens from smoking re total bs. Or the ones that are supposed to fund all sorts of quit smoking programs yea right! It is also funny when the tax programs do not pass it is all big tobacco's fault the greedy lawmakers never think that gee maybe it is enough for now? Maybe the poor working person is tired of being punished?
Ah hell glad I have quit. Lol and when their new tax does not provide as much revenue as they expect we will all hear all these endless complaints about internet sales or heck probably more on the e smokes and how heavy they should now be taxed. Or wow even the quit smoking patches/lozenges/gum whatever. Some bright fool will add a hidden fee on all the helpful items designed to ease our discomfort just like they always do. Just another way of ripping off poor hardworking people who are addicted and use cigs to cope. Governments dont care if people smoke or not they just want a cash cow. And right now smoking is the evil bad guy it used to be drinking. We are all going to die so that argument didnt work to well but most of us cant bear the idea of taking out others so that is where 2nd and 3rd hand smoke came from.
Seems to me we get spoon fed all sorts of lies and propaganda these days thru out news sources--how many times has total bs been touted as the truth? Even when later proven to be false the damage is done. We are all sheep follow the latest guidelines. Crap that is so true look at all the horror stories nowdays about these awful school shootings. One insane individual causes a nightmare which in turns inspires another. Seems to go in waves. Hell why dont we encourage smoking for them maybe it would give them an outlet so they dont feel the need to hurt our babies. Oh heck maybe they could calm down and if they still feel the need to hurt someone well they can practice on themselves.
Now I have gone off my smoking stuff into nightmares. I just get so tired of our children being hurt!! We cut school funding force kids to study mainly for standardized testing take away so much that engages kids like art, music programs. The children are what is important!! Not some old fart like me smoking. or trying to stop.
And this tax hike is simply another way to punish poor addicted people gee for being poor and addicted. All the dumb ass arguments like the price hikes keep teens from smoking re total bs. Or the ones that are supposed to fund all sorts of quit smoking programs yea right! It is also funny when the tax programs do not pass it is all big tobacco's fault the greedy lawmakers never think that gee maybe it is enough for now? Maybe the poor working person is tired of being punished?
Ah hell glad I have quit. Lol and when their new tax does not provide as much revenue as they expect we will all hear all these endless complaints about internet sales or heck probably more on the e smokes and how heavy they should now be taxed. Or wow even the quit smoking patches/lozenges/gum whatever. Some bright fool will add a hidden fee on all the helpful items designed to ease our discomfort just like they always do. Just another way of ripping off poor hardworking people who are addicted and use cigs to cope. Governments dont care if people smoke or not they just want a cash cow. And right now smoking is the evil bad guy it used to be drinking. We are all going to die so that argument didnt work to well but most of us cant bear the idea of taking out others so that is where 2nd and 3rd hand smoke came from.
Seems to me we get spoon fed all sorts of lies and propaganda these days thru out news sources--how many times has total bs been touted as the truth? Even when later proven to be false the damage is done. We are all sheep follow the latest guidelines. Crap that is so true look at all the horror stories nowdays about these awful school shootings. One insane individual causes a nightmare which in turns inspires another. Seems to go in waves. Hell why dont we encourage smoking for them maybe it would give them an outlet so they dont feel the need to hurt our babies. Oh heck maybe they could calm down and if they still feel the need to hurt someone well they can practice on themselves.
Now I have gone off my smoking stuff into nightmares. I just get so tired of our children being hurt!! We cut school funding force kids to study mainly for standardized testing take away so much that engages kids like art, music programs. The children are what is important!! Not some old fart like me smoking. or trying to stop.
Monday, January 21, 2013
Day 9 I want a smoke!
Thought the worse is supposed to be over in a week yea right. I went along with that fallacy before when Bob had his heart attack he was using patches while in the hospital and I made sure he had some for when he came home but he couldn't do it. It is hard. I had always felt so guilty by not somehow forcing, insisting whatever about our smoking.Well heck...we did agree after that to smoking only in our room or outside so I guess that was something. We did become closer than ever we knew life can and does get cut short and you can lose someone you love in a heartbeat. He did survive the widowmaker and we got to have 12 more years together.
In truth I have never believed his cancer was caused by smoking alone. He did a lot of remolding work removed a lot of old asbestos laden floors, ceilings etc in old houses all over in addition to when his former boss got contracts to remove flooring in the prisons and a few postal offices.Bob was the guy who followd along the other guy so he got full exposure. It was before a lot of the safety measures in place now...he didnt even wear a simple nose mask most of the time.He'd come home covered in stuff and have to take a shower. Asbestos used to be so common when I was a kid we would play in the old barn with sheets of wallboard made of the stuff. There was tons! And yes it often broke apart so I know we all breathed in quite a bit! Bob did all of the removal work plus his constant work on car brakes and such...well along with smoking and family tendency to lung cancer ....enough said.
For me I just cannot use the patches I get really bad headaches and chest pain with them so I am stuck with only my e smoke to help with severe cravings. It helps...I really can't understand the controversy about e cigs. to me and other smokers it is a better way to ease away from smoking than patches/lozenges/gum etc,,,but many stern medical professionals want them banned/regulated whatever gee I guess because they are not in control of them. Doctors themselves are more accepting they go with whatever works to get people to stop smoking period. And if e smokes help well my doc approves. But I have read about big groups so down on it citing all sorts of stupid "facts" like it still is hand to mouth thing and they want to discourage that and how lozenges/gum have built in delays to remove a person from dependence of smoking all sorts of blah blah!! Ok simple truth! So many smokers are unable with your methods of patch/lozenges/gum hell the medical profession even has a mist/inhaler themselves.What is wrong at all with another method to help people to quit? Truth is I would not have lasted this long without it!
In all honestly those many years ago when Bob tried..I believe he would have succeeded with an e cig added to his patch for desperate times.
In truth I have never believed his cancer was caused by smoking alone. He did a lot of remolding work removed a lot of old asbestos laden floors, ceilings etc in old houses all over in addition to when his former boss got contracts to remove flooring in the prisons and a few postal offices.Bob was the guy who followd along the other guy so he got full exposure. It was before a lot of the safety measures in place now...he didnt even wear a simple nose mask most of the time.He'd come home covered in stuff and have to take a shower. Asbestos used to be so common when I was a kid we would play in the old barn with sheets of wallboard made of the stuff. There was tons! And yes it often broke apart so I know we all breathed in quite a bit! Bob did all of the removal work plus his constant work on car brakes and such...well along with smoking and family tendency to lung cancer ....enough said.
For me I just cannot use the patches I get really bad headaches and chest pain with them so I am stuck with only my e smoke to help with severe cravings. It helps...I really can't understand the controversy about e cigs. to me and other smokers it is a better way to ease away from smoking than patches/lozenges/gum etc,,,but many stern medical professionals want them banned/regulated whatever gee I guess because they are not in control of them. Doctors themselves are more accepting they go with whatever works to get people to stop smoking period. And if e smokes help well my doc approves. But I have read about big groups so down on it citing all sorts of stupid "facts" like it still is hand to mouth thing and they want to discourage that and how lozenges/gum have built in delays to remove a person from dependence of smoking all sorts of blah blah!! Ok simple truth! So many smokers are unable with your methods of patch/lozenges/gum hell the medical profession even has a mist/inhaler themselves.What is wrong at all with another method to help people to quit? Truth is I would not have lasted this long without it!
In all honestly those many years ago when Bob tried..I believe he would have succeeded with an e cig added to his patch for desperate times.
Sunday, January 20, 2013
Fresh week
Well dinner was fun we went to Chillis and I might have had a bit too much pomegranate margaretta but sure was yum!! Lol! Still not smoking! Being out like that in a place where there is no smoking allowed drinking and NOT smoking is not a problem but at a friends?? Better not try that for a long while yet!
I am really having troubles with the patch!! I put it on it itches like crazy and then a bad headache! I plain dont feel well with it on so the last 2 days I seem to have to take it back off fairly fast! Guess the level is to high for me but it said the 21 mg patch was right for a pack + a day smoker!! Well it's not!
I figured out a good thing about Tim still smoking--instead of making me want want it is reinforcing my desire to quit! He is careful, goes outside and usually takes the dog so he is in the yard while smoking where it is windy. But when he comes in wow! It really does smell!! Often it is not just around him but the smell goes all across the house!! I am at the point where I can often tell smokers now! It reminds me of high school before I started smoking full time when you could never go inside a bathroom without reeking of smoke coming out!I remember my Latin teacher getting upset with one of the most popular girls in school who was also a non-smoker accusing her of being a smoker when she can to class directly from the restroom .
Actually I can think of many times smoking seems stupid but since I was one seems stupider to complain! Once at bingo the ventilation system broke down. The man running the session that night suggested we try to take it easy and limit ourselves but hey! is there anything more frustrated than being on 3 ways and they still dont call your number?? Anyway it got so bad you didn't even need to light up to smoke. It was against all rules and security but they had to open a big roll up door and post security guards there. Gotta say it was bad because it WAS being inside a smoke filled building !!
Anyway we smokers tend to ignore all the unpleasant stuff just like druggies do in the midst of their addictions or foodies with theirs..the list goes on! We try not to think of the cost, we don't notice the smell. we rationalize the health risks, even when it hits home like Bob's lung cancer or heart attacks. My kids were both premies which has been linked to heavy smoking even though back then we could go into the waiting room and smoke. But to be honest we were warned about risks of smoking but didn't want to believe . Still don't! It is a whole lot easier to go on with what is comfortable the norm. It is hard when it makes us so uncomfortable to try and change for the better so we revert. I am good on addictions! But with smoking I simply have to treat it the same as my food one--day by day. I do know it gets easier in time. My main concern is I can still sometimes pig out on a special fave but I do know I can never smoke again or all I am going thru now will be in vain.
I am really having troubles with the patch!! I put it on it itches like crazy and then a bad headache! I plain dont feel well with it on so the last 2 days I seem to have to take it back off fairly fast! Guess the level is to high for me but it said the 21 mg patch was right for a pack + a day smoker!! Well it's not!
I figured out a good thing about Tim still smoking--instead of making me want want it is reinforcing my desire to quit! He is careful, goes outside and usually takes the dog so he is in the yard while smoking where it is windy. But when he comes in wow! It really does smell!! Often it is not just around him but the smell goes all across the house!! I am at the point where I can often tell smokers now! It reminds me of high school before I started smoking full time when you could never go inside a bathroom without reeking of smoke coming out!I remember my Latin teacher getting upset with one of the most popular girls in school who was also a non-smoker accusing her of being a smoker when she can to class directly from the restroom .
Actually I can think of many times smoking seems stupid but since I was one seems stupider to complain! Once at bingo the ventilation system broke down. The man running the session that night suggested we try to take it easy and limit ourselves but hey! is there anything more frustrated than being on 3 ways and they still dont call your number?? Anyway it got so bad you didn't even need to light up to smoke. It was against all rules and security but they had to open a big roll up door and post security guards there. Gotta say it was bad because it WAS being inside a smoke filled building !!
Anyway we smokers tend to ignore all the unpleasant stuff just like druggies do in the midst of their addictions or foodies with theirs..the list goes on! We try not to think of the cost, we don't notice the smell. we rationalize the health risks, even when it hits home like Bob's lung cancer or heart attacks. My kids were both premies which has been linked to heavy smoking even though back then we could go into the waiting room and smoke. But to be honest we were warned about risks of smoking but didn't want to believe . Still don't! It is a whole lot easier to go on with what is comfortable the norm. It is hard when it makes us so uncomfortable to try and change for the better so we revert. I am good on addictions! But with smoking I simply have to treat it the same as my food one--day by day. I do know it gets easier in time. My main concern is I can still sometimes pig out on a special fave but I do know I can never smoke again or all I am going thru now will be in vain.
Saturday, January 19, 2013
7 postscript
I have been in a pissy mood today out of sorts and wanting a smoke bad. It was because of deciding not to use a patch today I am just not ready yet for that too so I have one on now and hopefully will feel better soon! Guess it is better to rely on them instead of have a smoke a whole lot less chemicals involved.
Wow I posted simply today makes 7 days without a smoke for me on fb and I am shocked at the response! I sure have a lot of people who care so I need to keep plugging along.
Wow I posted simply today makes 7 days without a smoke for me on fb and I am shocked at the response! I sure have a lot of people who care so I need to keep plugging along.
Day 7
OMG!! It is the 7th day of my not smoking adventure!! Tonight we are all going out to dinner to celebrate!! No matter what else I have this a smoke free week!!Humm wonder if I can make it 2 weeks?? Lol the adventure continues! Ups and downs I sometimes want a smoke so bad so I take a few puffs off this e smoke thing then deep breathe til it passes. I need to learn some more coping techniques I don't want to switch one dependance to another as far as I am concerned my e smoke is just a temporary crutch to help me right now.I am too too worried for the first month but after that I want to get off all the nictione products. I have 2 weeks more of patches then I will quit them and perhaps the e smoke for up to a month beyond. Then again I dont think I will use the patches much longer dont care too much for them.
It is funny I have thought about quitting since I was 16 smoking full time I'd run out at night and half ass think I'd go without the next day but one wiff of someone else's and I'd be back. The withdrawal symptoms were (and still are!) very uncomfortable. Like a hunger along with dizziness, dullness of the mind many other things. A smoker gets so uncomfortable with out one in the hand! It is a comfort and a crutch..I once saw something where they liken a smoke to a baby's pacifier and in truth it is part that also. It gives you something to DO with your hands. It gives you a few seconds to think before you speak. It is a great tool for someone like me who is basically shy and slow to warm up. It helps bond you to other smokers since nowdays we are all objects of scorn!!!! It seems to me that smokers are looked down on more than drunks like we kill more people with all the 2nd hand 3rd had bullshit being thrown about. Smoking true does shorten most smokers lives. But the claim that anyone who ever smoked one cigarette or is around anyone who smokes is an automatic death sentence?? Come on! The medical industry used to advocate smoking to lose weight! I remember being a kid and my Mom was up in arms because her doctor suggested she try the "stinky things" as an appetite suppressant!
One thing I do miss about my younger years is we seemed to have more tolerance for others than now where so many expect others to follow their rules. Kids could express some simply personal choices like hair color in many shades or t shirts. Just because you personally didnt like something didnt mean it should automatically be banned! Intolerance seems to rule the day now. People are not allowed to be different. Kids especially need to have simple ways to express their own individually not be part of the herd and yet in schools we ban this simple need. We insist they dress a certain way behave certain ways. We make them study for testing and have very few programs in place to capture their imaginations their hearts. We are forcing them into clones of each other--cattle easily herded. Free creative thinking different ways to be are now discouraged. Before kids were allowed to be kids--running noisy etc such wonderful things! Kids still got to go with their passions! Now if a kid has trouble in school yet loves a sport well they are not allowed to play the sport until they improve. Kind of a catch-22 for them. They lose interest in school. The rigid structures we have on everything leaves them no place to excel.
Ah hell I could go on but no one cares really. We all seem to think we are in the right doing it our own wy and be damned to others! Intolerance rules.
It is funny I have thought about quitting since I was 16 smoking full time I'd run out at night and half ass think I'd go without the next day but one wiff of someone else's and I'd be back. The withdrawal symptoms were (and still are!) very uncomfortable. Like a hunger along with dizziness, dullness of the mind many other things. A smoker gets so uncomfortable with out one in the hand! It is a comfort and a crutch..I once saw something where they liken a smoke to a baby's pacifier and in truth it is part that also. It gives you something to DO with your hands. It gives you a few seconds to think before you speak. It is a great tool for someone like me who is basically shy and slow to warm up. It helps bond you to other smokers since nowdays we are all objects of scorn!!!! It seems to me that smokers are looked down on more than drunks like we kill more people with all the 2nd hand 3rd had bullshit being thrown about. Smoking true does shorten most smokers lives. But the claim that anyone who ever smoked one cigarette or is around anyone who smokes is an automatic death sentence?? Come on! The medical industry used to advocate smoking to lose weight! I remember being a kid and my Mom was up in arms because her doctor suggested she try the "stinky things" as an appetite suppressant!
One thing I do miss about my younger years is we seemed to have more tolerance for others than now where so many expect others to follow their rules. Kids could express some simply personal choices like hair color in many shades or t shirts. Just because you personally didnt like something didnt mean it should automatically be banned! Intolerance seems to rule the day now. People are not allowed to be different. Kids especially need to have simple ways to express their own individually not be part of the herd and yet in schools we ban this simple need. We insist they dress a certain way behave certain ways. We make them study for testing and have very few programs in place to capture their imaginations their hearts. We are forcing them into clones of each other--cattle easily herded. Free creative thinking different ways to be are now discouraged. Before kids were allowed to be kids--running noisy etc such wonderful things! Kids still got to go with their passions! Now if a kid has trouble in school yet loves a sport well they are not allowed to play the sport until they improve. Kind of a catch-22 for them. They lose interest in school. The rigid structures we have on everything leaves them no place to excel.
Ah hell I could go on but no one cares really. We all seem to think we are in the right doing it our own wy and be damned to others! Intolerance rules.
Friday, January 18, 2013
Day 6
Well this is the longest time I have gone without a cigarette since I was at least 16 that was when I became a full time smoker before it was just a few puffs here and there. For over 40 years I have been a smoker freaking weird that I no longer am! Well in a way I still am I do puff that e cigarette when I really really need a hit. All the controversy about those is pretty damn stupid if u ask me. The simple FACT is out of all the various nicotine replacement items--gum, lozenges, patches etc--and this is not only coming from me but many ex smokers I know ! the e cigarette helps the most.It is a heavier cigarette and glows a different color since we dont light it but it delivers a hit of nicotine to smoker's just as a smoke would without all the other chemicals. It has no stinky smell. I think I can use them for a while and eventually give up all the smoking type crutches. Rick has told me this is the easiest he has ever had and he has tried many times to quit and used damn near everything on the market and by prescription. Tim actually quit for months before with these things and is now seriously thinking of buying one again. There are several types on the market each with pros and cons. I think they are a great crutch for people trying to quit they help meet so many needs we smokers have. Yes it still takes determination and focus to quit the real things. These are not the same BUT a good substitute. They don't taste nasty like gum and lozenges and you can take a couple of puffs right after a meal which is one time we need the darn things most! With that thing sitting on my desk waiting for when I have to absolutely have to have a smoke----well I am hopeful I will make it
The boys had bought me a 2 cartridge starter kit and I am still on the 1st one. I had tried one several years ago and liked it at first but that kind you had to add the liquid to cotton yourself and sometimes yuk! the stuff would go all over your mouth. They were a lot harder to deal with that now all I have to do is plug the end into a port on my computer after unscrewing the cartridge and let it charge for a while each morning then screw back in the cartridge and it is good to go all day! I don't need to take it with me when I go out my gum and cough drops work well for me for several hours. With this e smoke I think I might survive the 2nd week of this!!
The boys had bought me a 2 cartridge starter kit and I am still on the 1st one. I had tried one several years ago and liked it at first but that kind you had to add the liquid to cotton yourself and sometimes yuk! the stuff would go all over your mouth. They were a lot harder to deal with that now all I have to do is plug the end into a port on my computer after unscrewing the cartridge and let it charge for a while each morning then screw back in the cartridge and it is good to go all day! I don't need to take it with me when I go out my gum and cough drops work well for me for several hours. With this e smoke I think I might survive the 2nd week of this!!
Thursday, January 17, 2013
Day 5 A bit better
I woke up feeling pretty good today think I am getting my temporary routine down get up coffee patch first things lol. I never smoked until after a cup or two of coffee not like Tim does or Bob did wake up and shove that puppy straight in the mouth. But I do admit after a few cups I miss my smokes though the morning cravings are not too bad. It's the ones after a meal that really do me it.
I started with a total of 21 patches and I am not sure if I will use them all. Seems to me after I first put this puppy on it itches like crazy for a short time makes me want to jump up and go smoke...then after a while it simple settles down and I forget it is on. I didn't use one the second day think I kind of od on day 1 with the patch lozenges and ecig...good thing I was a heavy smoker lol! Got a really sharp headache took the patch off and mellowed out on the nicotine crap til I felt better.Now it is the patch a few hits off the esmoke here and there plus lots of hall's cough drops with the vapor action or mentos gum--seems I need stuff that fillls my mouth/nose with a vapor type thing. Probably because I was a menthol smoker--Rick has no such need. But then he chows down sunflower seeds like crazy personally I never could handle the shells yuk!
Rick is a dear old friend of mine I have known him and his sister since high school. Sadly she died a few years ago but Rick and I are close. We fight like crazy at times and yet are fiercely loyal almost like brother/sister lol. We have gone back and forth for years about quitting for good,,,and this time we are doing it. It is nice to have someone to call/text and bitch to or yell at for getting me into this mess! I would still be happily..well..definitely smoking if he hadn't started this. Since he is a truck driver on the road most of the time I can't kill him for getting me in this messs lol so maybe in a month or so I will buy him dinner at Joe's and say thank you...of course that will probably give him a heart attack!
My kids and I went shopping yesterday both grocery and Cosco. It was so weird! Instead of going outside to have a smoke I stayed with my kids and helped pack the groceries. While walking back and forth to the car I could smell the smokers passing by! I never knew the smoke followed like that didnt believe it when my kids would complain I smelled like smoke when I got into the car after finishing one.They were right. I know there were times before where I hadn't had a cigarette for several hours and smelling one would light an instant craving in me. It didn't this time! One small victory!
I got a call from my doctor's office yesterday not so gently reminding me I was supposed to call and schedule an echocardiogram after I did all my bloodwork. Well hey I did do the bloodwork they took out so much it was crazy! I just forgot to call them that's all. Besides they force me to go in every 3 months anyway to get refills. I would have gone in eventually! Anyway now I get to go in and have that this morning what fun I have had a heart mummer since I was a kid which is why my ekg's are always off but still they have a need to check. The bad thing about getting old is you always seem to have to go visit the doc and they are always pushing drugs on you or forcing you to get more tests! Ugh! Yep I am a druggie only my pusher is the doc and my supplier is Walmart pharmacy nowdays.It's the pits I absolutely hate seeing the doc!
Uh oh I want a smoke! Guess it's time for a shower! Yep it helps too!
I started with a total of 21 patches and I am not sure if I will use them all. Seems to me after I first put this puppy on it itches like crazy for a short time makes me want to jump up and go smoke...then after a while it simple settles down and I forget it is on. I didn't use one the second day think I kind of od on day 1 with the patch lozenges and ecig...good thing I was a heavy smoker lol! Got a really sharp headache took the patch off and mellowed out on the nicotine crap til I felt better.Now it is the patch a few hits off the esmoke here and there plus lots of hall's cough drops with the vapor action or mentos gum--seems I need stuff that fillls my mouth/nose with a vapor type thing. Probably because I was a menthol smoker--Rick has no such need. But then he chows down sunflower seeds like crazy personally I never could handle the shells yuk!
Rick is a dear old friend of mine I have known him and his sister since high school. Sadly she died a few years ago but Rick and I are close. We fight like crazy at times and yet are fiercely loyal almost like brother/sister lol. We have gone back and forth for years about quitting for good,,,and this time we are doing it. It is nice to have someone to call/text and bitch to or yell at for getting me into this mess! I would still be happily..well..definitely smoking if he hadn't started this. Since he is a truck driver on the road most of the time I can't kill him for getting me in this messs lol so maybe in a month or so I will buy him dinner at Joe's and say thank you...of course that will probably give him a heart attack!
My kids and I went shopping yesterday both grocery and Cosco. It was so weird! Instead of going outside to have a smoke I stayed with my kids and helped pack the groceries. While walking back and forth to the car I could smell the smokers passing by! I never knew the smoke followed like that didnt believe it when my kids would complain I smelled like smoke when I got into the car after finishing one.They were right. I know there were times before where I hadn't had a cigarette for several hours and smelling one would light an instant craving in me. It didn't this time! One small victory!
I got a call from my doctor's office yesterday not so gently reminding me I was supposed to call and schedule an echocardiogram after I did all my bloodwork. Well hey I did do the bloodwork they took out so much it was crazy! I just forgot to call them that's all. Besides they force me to go in every 3 months anyway to get refills. I would have gone in eventually! Anyway now I get to go in and have that this morning what fun I have had a heart mummer since I was a kid which is why my ekg's are always off but still they have a need to check. The bad thing about getting old is you always seem to have to go visit the doc and they are always pushing drugs on you or forcing you to get more tests! Ugh! Yep I am a druggie only my pusher is the doc and my supplier is Walmart pharmacy nowdays.It's the pits I absolutely hate seeing the doc!
Uh oh I want a smoke! Guess it's time for a shower! Yep it helps too!
Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Day 4 Sucks
Well great more side effects no one mentions coughing up crap all the time and/or farting!! I am not safe to be in public either I suddenly let long embarrassing ones loose or I am coughing up mouthfuls of lung slime!. What the heck?? How come no one warned me?? Geez! All the lying first saying oh the cravings ease so much after 2-3 days. Fuck that I feel like shit today My chest feels like its on the verge of collapsing inward oh nothing that several smokes wouldn't fix but miserable all the same. I get headaches and when my nephew comes in from smoking the smell either makes me gag or makes me want to run and light of 10 at once.I have been cleaning cooking doing things to keep busy but gee! I have always done these things and there are all sorts of built in smoke breaks! For example my kids love this broccoli/cauliflower casserole I sometimes throw together. It is the only vegie dish I make that I boil the vegies in along with noodles--and it is just long enough to go outside and have a nice leisurely smoke before I need to go back inside and mix everything together! Ok Deb shut up!!
What gets me most is the farting!!!! OMG I have never been like this!! I think it is the deep breathing the quit websites recommend to help curb a craving. True it does help but I sure cannot go out in public like this!! Long and LOUD!!If I was a man well several I know I'd probably be proud of that but I am a woman! I didn't know my body could do that!!!
And the coughing! All of a sudden it's like I am hacking up a lung! Hey I though smokers cough was while you were smoking a lot more than usual in a day in a room full of others also smoking more than usual. This cough just sneaks up and I'd better have a tissue handy!! Cough cough cough and a mouth full of crud!! YUK!!!! At least when you get a cold you know you are going to cough and blow your nose a lot but this when you are feeling ok and suddenly it just goes to town!!
I guess today is just an old lady bitch day for me. I woke up made my coffee and put on today's patch but feel such a sense of loss my constant companion of more than 40 years is dead now--my smokes. One thing widowhood has taught me is how to get thru a major death like this sure kicking and screaming ranting and raving mourning my great loss...hey I am allowed to break down scream yell this is a death of a long time passion the one who was always there for me. Yes I liken smoking to one of my greatest relationships I took care of it by buying cigarettes, lighters, cases to store them in, I brought them everywhere with me. True we fought--every smoker knows how it gets when you get a cold those suckers are mean and nasty then. I as every smoker does talked many times about breaking up with them citing health, smells, family and friends begging, and the doctors stern warnings and comments about my smokes. All the people telling me what a bad relationship it was how it was an abusive one and would wind up killing me! Just like so many bad ones we see in others. But still with all the ups and downs there were so many good times too like the simple act of sitting outside in the sun enjoying a good book with my smokes. Such joy! And they were always there for me when I was so lost and alone.
This is a death of a bad relationship that lasted far too long..and now it is time for me to reclaim my life and move on!
What gets me most is the farting!!!! OMG I have never been like this!! I think it is the deep breathing the quit websites recommend to help curb a craving. True it does help but I sure cannot go out in public like this!! Long and LOUD!!If I was a man well several I know I'd probably be proud of that but I am a woman! I didn't know my body could do that!!!
And the coughing! All of a sudden it's like I am hacking up a lung! Hey I though smokers cough was while you were smoking a lot more than usual in a day in a room full of others also smoking more than usual. This cough just sneaks up and I'd better have a tissue handy!! Cough cough cough and a mouth full of crud!! YUK!!!! At least when you get a cold you know you are going to cough and blow your nose a lot but this when you are feeling ok and suddenly it just goes to town!!
I guess today is just an old lady bitch day for me. I woke up made my coffee and put on today's patch but feel such a sense of loss my constant companion of more than 40 years is dead now--my smokes. One thing widowhood has taught me is how to get thru a major death like this sure kicking and screaming ranting and raving mourning my great loss...hey I am allowed to break down scream yell this is a death of a long time passion the one who was always there for me. Yes I liken smoking to one of my greatest relationships I took care of it by buying cigarettes, lighters, cases to store them in, I brought them everywhere with me. True we fought--every smoker knows how it gets when you get a cold those suckers are mean and nasty then. I as every smoker does talked many times about breaking up with them citing health, smells, family and friends begging, and the doctors stern warnings and comments about my smokes. All the people telling me what a bad relationship it was how it was an abusive one and would wind up killing me! Just like so many bad ones we see in others. But still with all the ups and downs there were so many good times too like the simple act of sitting outside in the sun enjoying a good book with my smokes. Such joy! And they were always there for me when I was so lost and alone.
This is a death of a bad relationship that lasted far too long..and now it is time for me to reclaim my life and move on!
Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Day 3 Helppp!
Last night I got so exhausted I found my self dozing off around 7 pm!! It was either have a smoke or go to bed..so I went to bed before 8 wow! This time I didn't wear a patch decided yesterday to tough it with the lozenges and ecig alone so no crazy weird dreams thank goodness! I do wake up a lot at night lol we old ladies have weak bladders so 3 or 4 times a night is not unusual for me. But still I slept fairly well and got up at my usual time of 5 am feeling pretty good but figured I better use the patch today I really want a smoke!
I kept going on the net yesterday trying to figure out how long the worst is supposed to last. I keep finding reassuring 2-3 days from the quit groups but then a big HA! from actual people. Since we all have the same goal I don't get why they are all reassuring and calm instead of being more honest about what we new ex smokers will face. Hey it's scarey anyway!! We already know it is going to be a killer undertaking! Most of us have spent over half our lives or more trying so hard to ignore all the doomsayer facts about what is in those things! Lol that seems to be where a lot of these quit smoking groups go wrong they focus on all these illness we will most likely get or go on endlessly about second hand smoke which if you only smoke outside as I and most smokers I know do does not seem to apply too well..sorry but just because I or someone else is several yards away from you smoking it does not automatically give you or your kids horrible diseases! Inside closed off unventilated places ok I can see a problem. It smells it discolors the walls leaves a reside but outside? Come on. LOL it was one of my reasons to continue to smoke all the lies and stupidity the half truths and out and out bull. Why do they do that? There is already ample evidence what smoking does. But research is so often screwed! One thing I have always known as any thinking person does is you can easily twist studies to point in the directions you want.I can state that everyone who takes a shower will die and easily point out facts to prove it.Science is not exact either how many times do they suddenly have to switch gears? Really stupid this 3rd hand smoke and so on. Lets just stick to simple. We know smoking is bad for you but generally takes a long time to kill. We know that you simply shouldn't subject others to it so smoke outside or in a well ventilated place like the special smoking rooms at a bingo hall. Those make sense. Smokers have rights too. This quitting thing is extremely hard. I am often going second by second to hold on and am determined to see out a week without a smoke. But I have to say it is so damn hard! Childbirth is easier. For goodness sakes I am 57 it would be so much easier to light up to feel the sharp relief of a cigarette!!
Still I have always felt a sense of shame for being so weak. I have found that is true for most of us smokers. We do not want our kids to get this addiction. And that is what it is a huge addiction and one of the worse.. see it is not like most addictions personally I have been a food addict, had a mild addiction to crank at one time and always my smokes. The crank was hard but back then it was obviously wreaking my life so it was doable. The food thing well overweight diabetic liver problems and so on I was obviously close to the end. Now the smokes...ok I have devolved asthma but then right now it is more allergy induced kind . Still I know if I don't stop it will go on to full blown copd. I have seen too many lugging around oxygen tanks using all sorts of inhalers and then death. And while this is going on they are still smoking unable to stop. The bingo hall had to set down firm rules about the oxygen tanks in the smoking room. A close friend had huge warnings about smoking on her apartment door because of the oxygen...and yet she was unable to quit. She died. It limits enjoyment of life. It limits freedom of movement. She couldn't come and visit because of those damn oxygen tanks!
I see myself going there if I don't stop. I am well on my way now with the asthma. Funny it was was just a fatal heart attack while out having fun well to me that wouldn't be bad. I am at the point where there are more years behind than ahead. But we are not given the choice of what kind of misery our addictions will cause.I have already been very ill unable to do many things I want to do. I am better now and I live in dread of going back and if I keep smoking there will soon be a point of no return for me. I will be one of those lugging an oxygen tank while smoking which is dangerous to all not only myself. I will be one unable to take more than a few steps without being teetered to a machine to help me do the simple basic thing we all need to do breathe.
I will be a burden to my kids unable to do much for them or anyone which is my greatest fear. I need to be useful. When it comes where I will no longer be able to care for myself where all I will ever do is get worse because of my smoking addiction....that thought is unbearable. I have to stop.
I kept going on the net yesterday trying to figure out how long the worst is supposed to last. I keep finding reassuring 2-3 days from the quit groups but then a big HA! from actual people. Since we all have the same goal I don't get why they are all reassuring and calm instead of being more honest about what we new ex smokers will face. Hey it's scarey anyway!! We already know it is going to be a killer undertaking! Most of us have spent over half our lives or more trying so hard to ignore all the doomsayer facts about what is in those things! Lol that seems to be where a lot of these quit smoking groups go wrong they focus on all these illness we will most likely get or go on endlessly about second hand smoke which if you only smoke outside as I and most smokers I know do does not seem to apply too well..sorry but just because I or someone else is several yards away from you smoking it does not automatically give you or your kids horrible diseases! Inside closed off unventilated places ok I can see a problem. It smells it discolors the walls leaves a reside but outside? Come on. LOL it was one of my reasons to continue to smoke all the lies and stupidity the half truths and out and out bull. Why do they do that? There is already ample evidence what smoking does. But research is so often screwed! One thing I have always known as any thinking person does is you can easily twist studies to point in the directions you want.I can state that everyone who takes a shower will die and easily point out facts to prove it.Science is not exact either how many times do they suddenly have to switch gears? Really stupid this 3rd hand smoke and so on. Lets just stick to simple. We know smoking is bad for you but generally takes a long time to kill. We know that you simply shouldn't subject others to it so smoke outside or in a well ventilated place like the special smoking rooms at a bingo hall. Those make sense. Smokers have rights too. This quitting thing is extremely hard. I am often going second by second to hold on and am determined to see out a week without a smoke. But I have to say it is so damn hard! Childbirth is easier. For goodness sakes I am 57 it would be so much easier to light up to feel the sharp relief of a cigarette!!
Still I have always felt a sense of shame for being so weak. I have found that is true for most of us smokers. We do not want our kids to get this addiction. And that is what it is a huge addiction and one of the worse.. see it is not like most addictions personally I have been a food addict, had a mild addiction to crank at one time and always my smokes. The crank was hard but back then it was obviously wreaking my life so it was doable. The food thing well overweight diabetic liver problems and so on I was obviously close to the end. Now the smokes...ok I have devolved asthma but then right now it is more allergy induced kind . Still I know if I don't stop it will go on to full blown copd. I have seen too many lugging around oxygen tanks using all sorts of inhalers and then death. And while this is going on they are still smoking unable to stop. The bingo hall had to set down firm rules about the oxygen tanks in the smoking room. A close friend had huge warnings about smoking on her apartment door because of the oxygen...and yet she was unable to quit. She died. It limits enjoyment of life. It limits freedom of movement. She couldn't come and visit because of those damn oxygen tanks!
I see myself going there if I don't stop. I am well on my way now with the asthma. Funny it was was just a fatal heart attack while out having fun well to me that wouldn't be bad. I am at the point where there are more years behind than ahead. But we are not given the choice of what kind of misery our addictions will cause.I have already been very ill unable to do many things I want to do. I am better now and I live in dread of going back and if I keep smoking there will soon be a point of no return for me. I will be one of those lugging an oxygen tank while smoking which is dangerous to all not only myself. I will be one unable to take more than a few steps without being teetered to a machine to help me do the simple basic thing we all need to do breathe.
I will be a burden to my kids unable to do much for them or anyone which is my greatest fear. I need to be useful. When it comes where I will no longer be able to care for myself where all I will ever do is get worse because of my smoking addiction....that thought is unbearable. I have to stop.
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