Tuesday, March 31, 2015

I Am Big Vapor

Some dumb article came out today approved (of course!) by the likes of  the Antz which talks about "big vaping" taking over just like big tobacco did. So of course the Antz jumped on that as another way of demeaning us (their favorite hobby).

Well guess what?  They are right I am big vapor.  But then so is ANYONE who has vaped, given someone a starter kit or even bothered to thoughtfully learn the real truth about vaping.  WE the people are "Big Vapor"  This is a consumer lead product denounced by most in Government or Public Health and totally thrashed (along with the users) by Tobacco Control.  Funny all of these groups have told us over and over to quit smoking now! and when we do they are furious call us names and refuse to even acknowledge us except to denounce us more loudly and call us trolls and addicts et al over and over again while they block us and congratulate themselves for such a great job.

We quit smoking but we didn't do it the "right way" which means their way only.  See they know their way mostly fails people come back to smoking fairly quickly ensuring a constant supply of sin tax money.  Those groups are all addicted to that money.

I am Big Vapor Debora J.  I am an anecdote to public health.  I am a blocked nuisance a troll an addict to those who make their living from taxes--Tobacco Control. I am an annoyance to government because I am not being cowed by them.   I do not count to any of these groups.  My voice is not heard. I do not matter.

Yet perhaps to my family and my friends to the people who take a minute to hear me to read some of the links I post  those who see the differences in me  those I along with others try  to reach on social media twitter and facebook gplus and pinterest etc....

Maybe I do

Friday, March 20, 2015

Tired of being 2nd class citizen

I read an excellent post by Lorien Jollye on the anger we feel  as vapors/former smokers being called names such as tobacco trolls or being told we do not deserve to be heard among other things.  It really hit hard.   http://theindefatigablefrog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/the-indefatigable-frog-or-why-this-wont.html

Thanks to the elite public health factions and their helpful unthinking innocents we are now deeply in Orwells 1984 -- the privileged elite class who enjoy making all the rules without any checks or balances. They control the news  and have purposely distorted facts about vaping making many claims that have NO backing in science or common sense.  Now these public health groups will shoot down any type of law that they should approve of such as  no sale to under 18 simply because it states a non-tobacco product. Yes it's true health groups have tried to allow sale to under 18  because the wording says the truth  vaping  does NOT have tobacco in it!! Shades of 2 + 2 =5!!!

 Why? because according to them  we are nothing more than addicts worthy of only contempt by anyone in public health. They tell us we are stupid we do not have a right to be around other people or to enjoy any activities that the right thinking people do so we are not to go to parks, beaches, zoos, we are too stupid to have a say in where our previous  heavily taxed  cigarette money should go (hint its to pay their salaries and give them a platform to further dismiss us) we are to still pay even more for healthcare with extra premiums (huh wasnt that where this tax money was supposed to go?) and even then at some hospitals will have the IV ripped from our arms while we are thrown into the streets  http://www.salina.com/news/tobacco-policy-at-SRHC-91114  all of this because we are disgusting filthy non rightspeak thinkers who do not deserve a voice.

I am ashamed.  I am 59 and I watched this happen in my lifetime yet never spoke up.  I by my silence allowed a huge group of people--including myself! to become sub-human.  When I was young people smoked everywhere--doctors offices, grocery stores.  I can remember how angry my Mother was when her doctor advised her to smoke so she would lose weight. She hated smoking so maybe that is why I stood by I didn't let her know I was a smoker until I was 19. By then more people where starting to take  health warnings more seriously even though we could still smoke in hospitals there were those who'd gripe about the cost or call them cancer sticks.  I remember a friend's Mom who was talking about the new taxes and worried that someday cigarettes would cost a dollar a pack.

A few years later the bans started.  It used to be at the mall we'd walk around with a cigarette yes we put them out before we went into the stores but walking around was fine.  We were allowed to go into food areas and smoke also.  We were still people then.  Suddenly an ordinance was passed and all smokers had to congregate in a few select areas of the mall and OMG!  Those were bad!!  Even my non-smoking friends and relatives where appalled everyone agreed it was so much better when smoking was not confined to one place--back then you MIGHT catch an occasional smell but that was it but with the new way confining smokers to one place it was overwhelming...even to smokers.  WE started going outside instead because that was gross!!  Too many people confined to a very small space THAT is what caused the problem!  It was ok in some places that had rooms set aside for smokers because it was ventilated too.

I was mostly too busy with life to pay much attention to all of this.  My only concern was the price of my vice so I switched to generics.  But then more bans my brother (never smoker) told me about new bans going in bars now that he thought were way stupid.  The bingo halls started smoking and non rooms later on the state tried to ban smoking in the halls but attendance went down so much that the organizations managed to get the rooms with the special filters re-opened.  Suddenly faster and faster bans were all over.  I wasn't allowed to go to the parks the zoo damn near anywhere.  I had to get away from doors even during a heavy rainstorm.  I was looked at with contempt encouraged by tobacco control.  A doctor actually yelled at my husband for being a smoker when he had health problems--the world had decided it had the right to tell us how to live now.  People who used to be polite now felt it was their right to order smokers around tell us we are trash now potheads and alcoholics have respect but smokers are trash.  Funny when I was young it was very different smoking a cigarette didn't make you mean or stupid or impaired it actually simply either gave you a moment to think or calm down or sharpened your mind  so you think clearly but now its the bad guy.  To be quite honest I would say alcohol has killed more people I lost a close friend at the age of 16 to a drunk driver.  No matter what bs they lie about 2nd hand smoking only hurts the person.  I have known too many people from smoking families who are kicking and old.  Truth is  tobacco control has an agenda to get rich so they lie.

Anyway my kids wanted me to become a non smoker and my friend's kids wanted the same for him too so we  tried the vaping way.  To our shock and surprise it works.  Freaking weird!! But according to public health we are STILL trash.  They seem to be mostly angry because they are loosing money and damnit!  It is their money!!  We are supposed to smoke pay taxes and take whatever they want to throw at us.  We have no rights according to them we are not people.  Shit they won't even allow our success stories on their quitting sites--http://smokefree.gov/journey ---- clear disclaimer  from their site:
The information presented in these stories is based on the experience of individual smokers and does not represent NCI’s position or policy.
(*) Posts which advocate the use of non-FDA approved nicotine products may be removed.

And they HAVE removed loads of them!! 

Public Heath? Or elite dictators? Privileged class who earn their living very comfortably getting rich through demeaning and punitive actions  aimed directly at us. They lie.  They said they simply wanted the end to smoking yet instead are determined to make us smoke again by denying us use of a product that even with their cherry-picked science they can't deny is much better for our health.  To me it looks like panic and temper tantrums from them over money and power never health. To me all their garbage over vaping simply shows the truth they are all nothing but liars.  Oh and I am not the only one who now believes this!!  Everyone who watches your train wreck is disgusted.  We no longer trust you that is why your warnings on vaccines on flu shots on damn near anything are now met with a raised eyebrow. Public health officials now need to prove themselves willing to work for real public health and not just money power and prestige

To those who don't believe me look around. Follow the money.

Senator prove it!

I am NO longer a smoker.  That alone should be applauded by all of you in government who  told me for years what a horrible person I am because I smoked.  I was taxed by you at insane rates supposedly to help pay for extra healthcare costs but in reality have gone to fund those in tobacco control who were my tormentors the ones who denied me access to parks, zoos, the ones who shut me out of life by telling all over and over I was a smelly disgusting horrid person and invited all to come and freely torment me even  taught children it is ok to harass & bully people who smoke or choose to be different.

My sin  taxes -the ones that were supposed to go on my healthcare costs are used for so many things to prop up government spending is another example.  You sold your tobacco bonds expecting there to always be smokers plenty of us--and now there is trouble.  We quit.

But hey you have an ace!!  We did not quit the 'right way'  which as you know fails most of the time.  People are always quitting smoking but no worries they always come back---except this time.  Suddenly we really are quitting.  Thousands and thousands of us ARE quitting and the dual use ones the ones not quite ready ready to quit completely are slowing down so they also do not need to buy as many cigarettes.  I am sure panic ensued by the huge loss of revenues in "your" money--until someone remembered well yes these e-cigarettes are NOT regulated!!

Now every day the public hears new horror stories about vaping.  So many studies which are carefully manipulated to give bad results and hastily released to the public as media headlines the later retractions are a small easily missed squib several days later.  The studies showing how much safer vaping is, the ones showing no danger to bystanders the ones showing room air is about the same as just breathing --those are suppressed.  Real studies by respected scientists--not just "sponsored" by ones with an agenda are ignored.  The media is bought and paid for so they will only publish news that fits with  tobacco control's views since those are the ones that support increased  taxes and/or outright banning the most amazing invention of our time which can replace burning combustible cigarettes  for good.

So now you are all following the same mode and trying to do the same things you did to us as smokers--humiliate us, tell us we are no good addicts,  push us around and take our money saying its for our own good.  As before you are encourage others to berate us tell us we are no good vapors, addicts, nasty things now some are saying we should be all shot to death in front of our families it was  later passed off as a bad joke but it keeps coming back. Tobacco Control and you encourage that hostile  behavior.  You encourage it not telling facts about vaping-- honest verifiable facts instead you use conjecture, play on fears and plain lie.

It is true we vapors are not following the script you laid out for us before when we were smokers.  We refuse to be bullied anymore to be told to just die. We reject your taxes and controls on a product that causes no harm to anyone.  We are the ones who are using these we know the truth because we live it daily.  We are the ones who developed breathing problems from smoking cigarettes which are now so much better! We are also the ones who keep improving this product to make it eventually work for all smokers.  We have lived it we do know any burning combustible material IS the real problem as would anyone who has been near a fire.  We know nicotine is similar to caffeine both can be dangerous when used improperly yet can also be safe for adults even beneficial for many ailments such as Parkinson's or Dementia.  Dose makes the poison in all things even water.  We know vaping is improving our lung function--many of us (including me) no longer need to use inhalers.  We know nicotine is not really very addictive--I a former 42 year 2+ pack daily  smoker rarely use nicotine 2 years out.  We know vaping IS a life saver--real research the ones not using an agenda like forcing a product beyond its capabilities to do harm--is showing vaping is fairly safe.  This is not a gateway too smoking--another last ditch smear--it is a gateway OUT.  The flavors help tremendously also  to move people away and excuse me appealing to children?  Lots of things appeal to children--inducing fruity cleaning products--it is the adults responsibility to keep it away from them.  Also keeping their parents around having them vape instead is good for the kids. All of these very weak arguments prove how much better vaping IS  since none are truths just conjecture --to me it sounds like a 4 year old making up tales to cover misdeeds.  The real facts are what is needed.

We are not anti research but we are against self-serving lies as the ones told by tobacco control and certain public health officials who see their funding dry up because of vaping.  We are against self-serving lies told in government to protect their sin tax money.  We are against ALL who would rather have us smoke burning combustible cigarettes simply to protect their ideals and financing. We are people not anecdotes--- " regarded as unreliable or hearsay"--as some health groups enjoy calling us.  We are real living breathing people.We are growing in numbers.  We also have friends and family who see the difference in us!  Are they saying anecdotal stories about us when they talk about us to others telling them it worked for us? I know many who have quit or at least cut down smoking because of vaping.

One thing you senators, public health, tobacco control, governmental officials seem to forget--we may be smokers and former smokers who are now vapors--the ones you all feel entitled to disregard, humiliate and show utter complete contempt to because "you don't like vapors/smokers"   That is prejudice extreme unrelenting hostile nasty prejudice.  WE are people.  We have huge numbers of friends and family on our sides who are thrilled we are  vaping---  they love & care about us. They know you are in the wrong to deny citizens this life saving gift. The younger generation--ages 20- 35 are the ones who encouraged me to vape  they did their homework and hoped it would work for me. It did.

Prove harm first.  No more lies.  I want to see if any one in government is worth it anymore or are you all only able to follow the golden goose and lie instead of looking for hard facts oh and they are very easy to find you can start here:     harm reduction   or here:    casaa

Also perhaps it is time to take a good hard thoughtful look at tobacco control suppression of facts isn't good for the public and costs lives

Thursday, July 24, 2014


Rough draft of my FDA comments

I am a widow my husband died of lung cancer and yet I  still could not quit smoking even with first hand knowledge of how horrible cancer is. I was unable to stop for my children who where teens at the time and begged. I was truly addicted for over 42 years never able to stop my 2+ pack a day habit more than a few days even with patches, gum, pills--I expected to die with a cigarette in my hand but figured well it helped me to think when I needed to make hard decisions.  Cigarettes comforted me those long nights when the world sleeps but I was in so much pain from grief,and  frankly cigarettes are much more than just an addiction they are a way to cope to take a few seconds to think or to calm you--they were my lifeline they bought me time a few seconds to clearly think square my shoulders and go on.

I honestly never dreamed I would be saying this as a FORMER heavy smoker yet I am. Funny it started out with a dear friend challenging me to quit with him.  Neither of us thought it would work we'd both attempted to quit before with friends & loved ones using  patches & gum but I never lasted more than 5 days in addition he had  tried acupuncture, hypnosis and pills (chantix, wellburtrin) before but he never lasted over 8 months so of course we both expected to fail with this e cigarette thing which my non smoking kids wanted me to try so we picked up some of those look alike things.  They were close got the hand action but the vapor just didn't quite make it still missing something--and  we were told about ego style and vv about different temps and they suggested flavors instead of his Marlboro or my menthol crazy talk!!  But then we tried this new way....!!!!! It works!!  We are both in our late 50's we never expected to be NON smokers but we are!!!  While it is true he still occasionally uses a tobacco/fruit flavored juice at times we are both so into all the wonderful  flavors now yes candy, desserts, fruits, heck gum type flavors!! We  have found the flavors distance us even more from cigarettes and make it worth all the extra effort. I now hate tobacco and   I can smell I can breathe I no longer use inhalers I no longer have a smokers cough or carry cough drops around constantly I no longer have to sleep with an air purifier or have the constant ache from a deep breath. ..I am a non smoker and have been for over 18 months!!!!! We both are and we have gotten several friends to also switch!! For the first time there is a way that really does work and yet it seems the powers in charge want to destroy it.  They want us to use tobacco not vape because otherwise they have nothing to fight or take advantage of us with to  look down on to destroy our lives by not allowing us freedoms.  Smokers are unfairly taxed and victimized now they want to destroy and victimize vaping too with the same prejudice they apply to smokers.  Funny smoking is easy rip the pack over shove that puppy in the mouth light up.  Vaping we have to worry about chargers. batteries, juices, atty's so much more but so worth it.

I am not a smoker anymore.  I haven't been one for over 18 months.  If you proceed as planned I guess I do need to learn how to diy juices, wrap rebuild coils because I am not going back.  I also will not use those cig-a-likes or switch tobacco only  flavors might as well smoke with those which is easier anyway. Everyone I know is the same so then you really will have nicotine poisonings since there are a lot of dummies who don't understand that it is concentrated not pre-mixed as they are used too and concentrated is dangerous unlike mixed e-juice and needs precautions  that will be government's fault  especially to those who don't understand to protect and serve people you have to understand them and their needs not just your own agendas. I personally often don't use nicotine but I do on occasions when I need help thinking clearly true a low dose but necessary to keep me where I am.  With this reg I won't be able to buy my juice from vendors I know and trust to do it right they will be gone and thousands of small business will disappear only big tobacco companies will be left--the same companies that have been adding so much to tobacco it is now more deadly than ever. Will this happen to their ejuice also?  I expect so since there wont be such a strong vaping community ready to make this widely known and there will not be another choice for ones containing nicotine.  It's just we won't be using them oh sure maybe some newbies but we will all be making our own zero-nicotine  juice from easily available food items and many will find a way to get that nicotine so I expect there will be a new thriving black market.  Totally sad and avoidable juice should be under food regulations anyway NOT tobacco control.  It may look like smoking but ask ANY smoker it is not however! vaping  it is something we can do instead.

I joined  CASSA shortly after I started vaping and found out there is controversy over using  vaping to quit smoking.   I was shocked that anyone would condemn this I was sheltered by the fact all that I knew were PRO vaping and were thrilled that I could quit smoking this way. I am an American citizen who is now a non smoker because of vaping.  My vaping community supports innovation and helping as many as possible to discover vaping to find what will work for them individually to allow all to finally quit dying from smoking -people like my husband.  We know that if allowed to grow vaping will put an end to  smoking--burning combustible deadly tobacco for good.  True the opposition will loose tobacco related income but it is time for real changes to save lives and that is what this is supposed to be about--people not money.  E-cigarettes should be a weapon in the fight against smoking because that is what they are an answer to a prayer for a smoke-free world.

Sunday, May 25, 2014

17 Months...

Ok I re read this blog today and most important YES I am still an ex smoker!!  I do vape I need the hand to mouth the inhale the community, its a mix of things...but I mostly don't use nicotine now well in truth I didn't use it for months til I noticed a lot of forgetting problems coming on so I do occasionally use an extremely low ejuice with just 3 or 6 mg with nicotine and it has helped. But mostly its no nicotine ejuices for me it is not about nicotine addiction anymore been there done that so yes I know the difference now.

The ecig controversy is going on harder than ever and now the FDA has landed with heavy guns firing because of fools who simply don't like the fact that pharmacy companies did not develop and market ecigs then we'd all be angels.  But exsmokers taking this into our own hands to find something that works really works something that also now involves a hobby type with new mods, atomizers, tanks, drip tips, holders fun snobby stuff  along with practical items like loads of ejuice flavors which tease our new found sense of taste and gives up great pleasure is simply evil to them. The ANTZ are all up in arms.  By vaping instead of smoking we are destroying their smug way of life where they can make loads of money off our addictions with useless and often dangerous pharmaceutical items, with all their so called quit smoking help groups, and worse we are also cutting deeply into their tax base!! In addiction to all of this we are out of control!  We are no longer being submissive and shamed.  We don't want to be shunned and left out of all the things we pay for with our tax dollars anymore. We know we are not hurting anyone with our vaping so now they are trying to pretend there is 2nd hand vape or we are trying to get kids addicted!!!! We are supposed to be shamed cowed and easily bullied by them.

The stupidest one is there insistence that adults dont like flavors so therefor we are marketing to kids.  So with that one uh excuse me have you looked in the liquor store lately?  Or even your beloved useless nicotine gum is now in flavors.  We no longer smoke after years and wow!!  STuff tastes good!!!  Yes I do like cotton candy, chocolate cake, sweettarts type, lemoheads and many other flavors.  I also now chew a lot of red flavored gums or lemon yum! Flavors wow we never knew how great they were!! I am 58 now almost 59 and I am worse than a kid .

Still the whole thing is stupid.  Why cant the ANTZ groups especially cancer societies and lung organizations be happy and pat themselves on the back because of the huge decreases in the smoking rates?  Isn't that what they wanted?  A world without burning, combustible tobacco?  Its now in reach.

Saturday, February 23, 2013

6 Weeks Strong

Wow! I believe I can now be called an ex smoker!! I haven't felt the need to post for a while I have been so interested in all the controversy surrounding e cigs! I think I can state with confidence that as long as e cigs are available I will stay an ex smoker  no need for smelly smokes with this wonderful invention!! It is great even works when you are at a friend's house drinking!! Just vape no need for a smoke!!

I was rereading my earlier blogs lots of pain in them but I have pushed thru and wow! I am an ex smoker now.  True I vape it fills the need the urge the craving all the things that make so many ex smokers start anew. If the powers that be ever DO decide to ban them then we all know the truth---it is not people or lives they care about it is power control greed and money.  That would be terribly sad.  I do get tired of those weird remarks about they are unsure what is in these huh excuse me? It is obvious!  What they are unsure about even after all the years of study is what is in analog smokes.  Scary stuff!!

I am not going to worry about vaping at all it works for me.

Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Thoughts about e cigs

To those who care I am NOT pushing ecigs onto anyone but smokers like me who need to quit.  It works for me it has been almost a full month without for me and my kids have already noticed a difference in me.  I no longer cough a lot.  I no longer need to use my inhaler at all. The yellow stains on my fingers are gone! I can smell! I could NOT use the patches, etc. but I can use these!  I have met on line hundreds more like me that have quit with these. When something works really works with easily identifiable ingredients easily tested why is there so much controversy? Don't they want us to finally be able to quit for good? I wonder especially when I read what is going on with all those who should be happy we are finally able to move away from smoking for good. Honestly I still havent heard any good reasons to ban these what they need to do is support them for people like me instead of the "big pharmacy" items that do not work!

So many of us wonder why the FDA, the strong anti smoking groups, the American lung association so many more why are you so down on these? Instead of really checking into them see if they do work as so many of us former smokers say they do they out right reject them and insist we use all their standard treatments and programs that flat out do not work for most of us!

It makes NO sense.  So we come up with the simple answers that do make sense--it all comes down to money, power and control.  All of you make money off our addictions and hey! smokers are now so beaten up it is fairly easy to add on more taxes to "help us" or to supposedly teach kids not to smoke or so on. 

These groups seem to need to have us smoking for their bottom line.  Can any of you deny that?

I am not an activist I am just an older woman who would like to have a few extra years so maybe someday I will be able to play with my future grandchildren.  I don't care about politics.  I cry over the news especially when some tragedy happens to children. I am convinced smoking is terrible I lost my husband to lung cancer!  I have cleaned walls covered in yellow yuk.  I have seen the same stains on my own fingers.  I switched long ago to outside smoking. I have asthma.  I was coughing a lot!  I was waking up chocking many times a night!  I had to sleep with a air cleaner next to me just to breathe while laying down! I knew it was killing me!!

But now already it is better! So much better.  I can smell the nasty smell when my nephew comes in after having a smoke and I am shocked I used to smell that bad! I have not used my asthma inhaler for 3 weeks! So many changes for me in such a short time.

So I ask again how can you deny this lifesaving gift and want to ban, ridicule deny it helps? Why can't you simply ask us the people it helps and embrace the new technology instead of staying stuck in the dark ages of forcing us to still smoke because we cannot quit your way!